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[1. Call Meeting to Order. ]
I HAVE SIX 30.WE ARE GONNA CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.
THIS IS THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY OF PALMER, TEXAS, THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER THE 17TH, 2026.
IT'S 6:30 PM COUNSEL CHAMBERS IS LOCATED AT SIX 50 SOUTH DALLAS STREET IN PALMER, TEXAS.
THE CITY COUNCIL SERVES JOINTLY AS THE PALMER PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, THE PALMER BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, AND THE GOVERNING BODY OF THE CITY.
WE'RE GONNA START WITH THE INVOCATION AND PLEDGE.
MR. BATEMAN, WOULD YOU MIND? I GOOD.
HEAVENLY FATHER, LORD, JUST THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY.
AND LORD, JUST THANK, THANKING FOR THE OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY OR JUST PRAY THAT YOU WOULD JUST LEAD AND GUIDE US IN, IN EVERYTHING, EVERY DECISION THAT WE MAKE, WHERE WE JUST, UH, PRAY FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND THE SAFETY.
WE PRAY FOR THE HOMECOMING FESTIVITIES TOMORROW AND THE EVERYONE OUT ON THE STREETS AND IN TOWN.
AND LORD, JUST HAVE A, A GREAT TIME.
AND LORD, JUST CARRY ON INTO THE EVENING TO THE HOMECOMING GAME AND JUST BE WITH OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND EVERYONE THAT'S WORKING.
AND LORD, JUST, UH, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO FOR US.
ASK YOU TO FORGIVE US WHERE WE FAIL YOU.
ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY.
WE DO HAVE A QUORUM, COUNCILMAN OR IS OUT.
WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
AT THIS TIME, CITIZENS WILL BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK ON ANY MATTER OTHER THAN PERSONNEL MATTERS OR MATTERS UNDER LITIGATION FOR A LENGTH OF TIME NOT TO EXCEED THREE MINUTES, NO COUNSEL ACTION OR DISCUSSION MAY TAKE PLACE ON A MATTER UNTIL SUCH MATTER HAS BEEN PLACED ON AN AGENDA AND POSTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH LAW.
I'M GONNA MOVE ON TO CONSENT AGENDA.
ALL MATTERS LISTED UNDER THIS ITEM CONSENT AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED ROUTINE BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION.
THERE WILL NOT BE A SEPARATE DISCUSSION OF THESE ITEMS. APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA AUTHORIZES
[5. Consent Agenda]
THE MAYOR AND CITY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE ALL MATTERS NECESSARY TO IMPLEMENT EACH ITEM.ANY ITEM MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR SEPARATE DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION BY ANY MEMBER OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
A BALANCE SHEET, B AUGUST PROFIT LOSS, YEAR TO DATE ACTUALS C MINUTES FROM THE AUGUST 20TH, 2026, REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.
D MUNICIPAL COURT, MONTHLY REPORTS, E PALMER POLICE DEPARTMENT, MONTHLY REPORTS, F PUBLIC WORKS, MONTHLY REPORT, AND G CITY OF PALMER MONTHLY PERMIT REPORTS.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
[6. Discuss and consider approval of the Palmer Municipal Development District FY 2026-2027 Budget ]
AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE PALMER MUNICIPAL DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FISCAL YEAR 2026.AND THIS WOULD BE ITEM 20 26 0 9 0 1.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THE MDD IS WELL REPRESENTED.
WE NEED APPROVAL SO WE CAN CONTINUE SPENDING ALL THE MONEY AT THE BALL FIELDS IF Y'ALL HAVEN'T SEEN IT UP THERE.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PALM MUNICIPAL DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT BUDGET.
[7. Discuss and consider for recommendation a minor rep lat application from Aracelli Lozano, on behalf of owner Rosa Lozano, requesting a minor replat of approximately 1.907 acres of real property located at 741 Bluebonnet Lane, Palmer, Texas, and described as lot 77A Green Acres ACS South-REV 1.907 AC, Palmer, Texas, from a single lot to two lots described as Lot 77AR1 and 77AR2 Green Acres ACSE South-REV, Palmer, Ellis County, Texas, currently zoned "R4" Residential. At said time the council may consider approval of the replat application. ]
SEVEN, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER FOR RECOMMENDATION A MINOR REPL APPLICATION FROM ELLI LOZANO ON BEHALF OF OWNER ROSA LOZANO REQUESTING A MINOR REPL OF APPROXIMATELY 1.907 ACRES OF REAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT 7 41 BLUE BONNET LANE,[00:05:01]
PALMER, TEXAS, AND DESCRIBED AS LOT 77 A GREEN ACRES A CS SOUTH REV 1.907 ACRES, PALMER, TEXAS FROM A SINGLE LOT TO TWO DOUBLE LOTS, DESCRIBED AS LOT 77 AR ONE AND 77 AR TWO GREEN ACRES.A CSE SOUTH REV PALMER, ELLIS COUNTY, TEXAS, CURRENTLY ZONED R FOUR RESIDENTIAL.
AT SAID TIME, THE COUNSEL MAY CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE REPL APPLICATION AND THIS WOULD BE, UM, 1271.
AND I DO HAVE A, A MAP UP HERE IF ANYBODY NEEDS TO SEE IT.
AND IT DOES MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS AND THEY ARE HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
THAT'S DOWN ON THE VERY END OF BLUE BONNET, ISN'T IT? YES, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.
MAYOR, IT'S A RESOLUTION, SO IT'LL BE OH 2 12 71.
THE 1271 IS FOR THE NEXT ITEM.
OKAY, I I PUT THE ORDINANCES ON TOP OF THE ITEM.
IT WASN'T WRITTEN THERE, SO I GOT LOST.
WE USED IT FOR SOMETHING ELSE AND WE WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO.
[8. Hold a public hearing, present, discuss, and consider action on an Ordinance approving and adopting the Annual Budget for Fiscal Year beginning October 1, 2026, through September 30, 2027, and providing that expenditures for said Fiscal Year shall be made in accordance with the adopted budget, providing for emergency expenditures and expenditures as otherwise allowed bylaw.]
A PUBLIC HEARING PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON AN ORDINANCE APPROVING AND ADOPTING THE ANNUAL BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2026 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2027.AND PROVIDING THAT EXPENDITURES FOR SAID FISCAL YEAR SHALL BE MADE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ADOPTED BUDGET, PROVIDING FOR EMERGENCY EXPENDITURES AND EXPENDITURES AS OTHERWISE ALLOWED BY LAW.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ANY OPPOSED? PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN.
GUESS WE NEED A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING, HEARING THE COUNCIL MEMBERS DON WANT TO SPEAK AS TO THE PUBLIC.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO THAT WILL BE ORDINANCE 1271.
I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 1271 SECOND.
[9. Hold a public hearing, present, discuss, and consider action on an Ordinance levying taxes for the City of Palmer, Texas, and fixing and adopting the tax rate for the year 2026 on all taxable property within the corporate limits of the City of Palmer as of January 1, 2026, at a rate of $0.666947 /$100 valuation, the said tax rate having a maintenance and operations component and a debt service component.]
A PUBLIC HEARING PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON AN ORDINANCE LEVYING TAXES FOR THE CITY OF PALMER, TEXAS AND FIXING AND ADOPTING THE TAX RATE FOR THE YEAR 2026 ON ALL TAXABLE PROPERTY WITHIN THE CORPORATE CITY LIMITS OF THE CITY OF PALMER AS OF JANUARY 1ST, 2026 AT A RATE OF 0.6 6 6 9 4 7 PER 100 VALUATION, THE SAID TAX RATE, HAVING A MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS COMPONENT AND A DEBT SERVICE COMPONENT.MAYOR, THAT IS NOT THE CORRECT TAX RATE.
APPARENTLY THAT WAS ON THE AGENDA.
6 6 9 8 4 6 6 9 9 8 4 6 6 9 9 8 4.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING SECOND SE SECOND.
SO MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, UM, ORDINANCE 1272.
I MOVE THE PROPERTY TAX RATE BE INCREASED BY THE ADOPTION OF A TAX RATE OF 0.6 6 9 9 8 4 PER $100 VALUATION, WHICH IS EFFECTIVELY
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A 0.46% INCREASE IN THE TAX RATE.[10. Discuss and consider for possible action on an Ordinance ratifying the Fiscal Year 2026-27 property tax revenue. ]
10, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER FOR POSSIBLE ACTION AND ORDINANCE RATIFYING THE FISCAL YEAR 2026.THE RATIFICATION IS REQUIRED BECAUSE IT IS RAISING MORE TAXES THAN THE PRIOR YEAR, SO WE ARE REQUIRED TO RATIFY IT.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 1273.
[11. Discuss and consider for possible action amending the Master Fee Schedule, codified in the Palmer Code of Ordinances, Appendix A, Article A2.000 Building and Development Related Fees, to increase the building and development related fees for accessory buildings, residential remodel, manufactured homes, and to add a fee for inspections after work completed without a permit. ]
AND CONSIDER FOR POSSIBLE ACTION AMENDING THE MASTER FEE SCHEDULE CODIFIED IN THE PALMER CODE OF ORDINANCES.APPENDIX, A ARTICLE A 2.000 BUILDING AND DEVELOPMENT RELATED FEES TO INCREASE THE BUILDING AND DEVELOPMENT RELATED FEES FOR ACCESSORY BUILDINGS, RESIDENTIAL REMODEL, MANUFACTURE HOMES, AND TO ADD A FEE FOR INSPECTIONS AFTER WORK COMPLETED WITHOUT A PERMIT.
SO FOR DISCUSSION, DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? YES.
THE, UH, MANUFACTURED HOME INSPECTION RATE IS A 200% INCREASE, IS THAT CORRECT? YES.
IT, WE HAVE, THAT'S BEEN THE PERMIT FEE SINCE I STARTED HERE.
AND A LOT OF THE TIMES, UM, IT ENDS UP BEING MORE THAN ONE INSPECTION BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE ELECTRIC AND THE PLUMBING DONE AT THE SAME TIME.
SO WE FELT THAT IT WAS TIME FOR AN INCREASE BASED OFF OF THAT.
SO THERE'S, THEY'RE GETTING TWO SEPARATE INSPECTIONS AT DIFFERENT TIMES? YES.
BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO GET A, AN ELECTRICAL INSPECTION AND A PLUMBING AND NINE TIMES OUTTA 10, THOSE ARE NEVER READY AT THE SAME TIME.
SO IT'S TWO DIFFERENT TRIPS AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE CHARGED WITH THE CITY'S AND THE ONE FEE CHARGE, IT COVERS BOTH TRIPS? YES.
THE $600 IS EVERYTHING THAT THEY NEED TO PAY FOR THAT MOBILE HOME.
THERE'S NO FURTHER INSPECTION FEES UNLESS THEY FELL AN INSPECTION.
I GUESS I'M JUST CURIOUS WHY IT'S, WHY IT'S SO MUCH HIGHER THAN, THAN LIKE THE RESIDENTIAL OR INSPECTION.
THE RESIDENTIAL, THE, LIKE THE SINGLE INSPECTION.
EACH ONE OF THOSE, THEY WERE 150.
NOW THEY'RE 200 IS WHAT WE WERE ASKING FOR.
UM, I FORGET WHAT WE, MAYBE WE LOOKED AT OTHER CITIES MM-HMM
WE DID LOOK AT OTHER CITIES WITH ALL OF THESE PERMIT CHANGES AND THAT'S HOW WE CAME UP WITH THE NUMBERS.
BUT I DON'T REMEMBER SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE MANUFACTURED HOME.
WELL, THEY HAVE TO HAVE A FOUNDATION.
IF IT'S A HUD MANUFACTURED HOME, THEY HAVE TO HAVE A FOUNDATION INSPECTION, THEY HAVE TO HAVE PLUMBING INSPECTIONS AND THEY HAVE TO HAVE ELECTRICAL INSPECTIONS.
AND IF NO MATTER WHAT THOSE COSTS ARE, THE CITY HAS TO PAY SAFE BUILT FOR THOSE INSPECTIONS.
SO, AND THAT HAS NOT BEEN INCREASED IN MORE THAN 10 YEARS.
SO IT WAS, IT WAS TIME FOR THE INCREASE.
WE USED TO HAVE SOMEONE THAT WAS IN HOUSE THAT DID THAT.
UM, WE COULD DO IT A LOT CHEAPER BACK THEN.
SO FROM THE SOUNDS OF IT, THERE'S, THERE'S MORE LABOR INVOLVED IN, IN THE MANUFACTURED HOME INSPECTION.
THERE'S, THERE'S MORE TO DO, THERE'S NOW MORE EXPENSE INVOLVED.
IF THEY HAVE TO GO OUT FOR THREE DIFFERENT INSPECTIONS, WE GET CHARGED EVERY TIME THEY GO OUT IN THAT RESIDENTIAL SINGLE INSPECTION.
THAT IS, IF YOU HAVE A NEW WATER HEATER PUT IN, YOU'RE JUST GETTING ONE INSPECTION IF YOU NEED YOUR GAS TURNED ON, THAT'S ONE INSPECTION.
SO THAT'S WHAT THAT RESIDENTIAL CHARGE IS.
OBVIOUSLY IF YOU BUILD A NEW HOME, IT'S, THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF DIFFERENCE IN THAT.
IS THIS ORDINANCE 1274? ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE 1274.
[12. Discuss and consider adopting an ordinance prohibiting parking on unimproved surfaces. *tabled from August 20, 2026 meeting]
AND CONSIDER ADOPTING AN ORDINANCE PROHIBITING PARKING ON UNIMPROVED SURFACES TABLED FROM THE AUGUST 20TH, 2026 MEETING.[00:15:01]
IT OFF THE TABLE.I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO BRING THIS ITEM OFF THE TABLE.
UM, SO WE NEED TO VOTE ON THAT MOTION.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW I DID GO MEET WITH RAUL.
WE DID GET INTO THE BIG ENORMOUS FIRE TRUCK AND DROVE THE ROADS THAT WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEADOWS.
UM, HE AND I, UH, DID NOT HAVE ANY ISSUES.
WE DID GO EARLY ON A SATURDAY WHEN MOST PEOPLE WOULD BE HOME.
UM, WE DID FEEL LIKE THAT THERE COULD BE SOME VERY TIGHT SPOTS THAT COULD BE CONCERNING.
UM, IF THEY ARE PARKED TOO CLOSE TOGETHER IN THE STREET, UM, HIS RECOMMENDATION WAS TO DO LIKE A HALF ON HALF OFF TYPE SOLUTION.
BUT WE HAVE TO DETERMINE IF IT'S WORTH IT TO CREATE AN ORDINANCE OR ADJUST AN ORDINANCE JUST BASED ON THE FACT THAT THIS ONLY IMPACTS LIKE TWO OR THREE STREETS, I THINK IN OUR COMMUNITY.
I COULD BE WRONG, THERE COULD BE MORE THAT I JUST HAVE NOT SEEN THE ISSUE.
BUT THERE ARE, IT, IT IS A, THERE IS A DRASTIC PROBLEM OVER THERE IF THERE'S LIKE AN EVENT OR A PARTY ON ONE OF THOSE FIRST FEW ROADS, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, IF WE HAD THEM PARK ON ONE ROAD, WE WOULD HAVE A SERIOUS PROBLEM BECAUSE THERE'S JUST NOT ADEQUATE PARKING OVER THERE.
SO THE ONLY SOLUTION WOULD PROBABLY BE TO GO HALF AN F.
IF YOU TRY TO GET 'EM TO PARK ON ONE SIDE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THEM CLAMMING DOWN OTHER PEOPLE'S STREETS.
PROBABLY, I'M ASSUMING, JUST MY OPINION.
BUT YOU GUYS LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU WANNA DO AND HOW YOU WANNA PROCEED.
JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU THAT FEEDBACK.
THE HALF ON, HALF OFF, YOU'RE REFERRING TO LIKE HALFWAY HALF THE VEHICLE.
SO THAT WAY THEY'RE NOT PARKING ALL THE WAY INTO THE DITCH.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT COULD, COULD BE EASILY ENFORCED CHIEF? OR IS THAT GONNA BE, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE YOU, YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE US OVER THERE ASKING PEOPLE UNLESS THERE'S A PROBLEM THAT MM-HMM
W WOULD IT BE SIMPLER TO SAY LIKE A MINIMUM DISTANCE FROM THE CENTER LINE OF THE ROAD? LIKE YOU HAVE TO SOMETHING YOU CAN MEASURING, ENFORCE? YEAH.
WHEN YOU SAY HALF OF A VEHICLE, MY MY THOUGHTS ARE SOME VEHICLES ARE WIDER THAN THE CENTER LINE, SIX FEET, EIGHT MINIMUM.
THE WAY THE GRASS GROWS OVER THERE, HOW ARE WE WHEREVER YOU DETERMINE WHERE THE ROAD STARTS AND STOPS AS FAR AS HALF ON THAT, THAT FAR OFF THE ROAD.
IT JUST NEEDS TO BE AWAY WHERE IT'S CLEAN WHEN IT'S, YEAH.
SO HIS, HIS MAIN CONCERN WAS IF, IF HE GETS THERE AND HE HAS TO USE THE BRUSH TRUCK 'CAUSE HE CAN'T GET THE BIG TRUCK DOWN, IT COULD CAUSE DAMAGE TO SOMEONE'S PROPERTY.
SO IT COULD DELAY THEM GETTING THERE.
THEY DO HAVE LONGER HOSES, BUT THOSE HOSES TAKE LONGER TO GET BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO ATTACH 'EM AND GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
SO HE, HE, HE DID FEEL LIKE IT COULD BE AN ISSUE IF THEY'RE TRYING TO GET TO A HOUSE FIRE QUICKLY AND IT COULD DELAY THEM.
AS THE ATTORNEY, HE'LL BE WRITING THIS POTENTIAL ORDINANCE.
SO WHAT IS THE ULTIMATE GOAL? ARE Y'ALL TRYING TO PREVENT PEOPLE FROM PARKING ON THE GRASS AND FORCING THEM TO PARK ON THE STREET? OR ARE YOU TRYING TO PREVENT PEOPLE FROM PARKING ON THE STREET? MAINLY THE STREETS, I WOULD THINK.
'CAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM, BUT IF YOU'RE, SO YOU'RE OKAY ALLOWING THEM PARKING ON THE GRASS.
BUT THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT IS YOU GOT PEOPLE WHO ALL, ALL FOUR WHEELS ARE IN THE GRASS AND THEY'RE GETTING RUED UP AND IT, IT'S, IT'S A CODE ISSUE.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? AS FAR AS JUST HOW KIND OF, HOW IT LOOKS AND THEY'RE IN THE DITCH.
THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, IMPEDING THE FLOW OF DRAINAGE IN SOME PLACES.
SO WHAT'S, WHAT WOULD BE THE GOAL? HALF ON, HALF OFF.
SO YOU WANT TO ALLOW PARKING ON THE GRASS, BUT ONLY HALF OF THE VEHICLE TO BE PARKED ON THE GRASS ESSENTIALLY.
I MEAN, I I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WOULD WORD THAT IN, IN AS HE SAID CLEAN, BUT THAT JUST COULD BE, COULD BE A POTENTIAL SOLUTION.
I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE.
SO DO WE EVEN WANNA REGULATE THAT? I'M OF THE OPINION, WE LEAVE IT HOW IT IS AND, BUT IF WE HAVE A PROBLEM, WE HAVE A PROBLEM.
'CAUSE IT REALLY IS, IT'S GONNA BE AN EITHER OR MM-HMM
I MEAN EITHER YOU PROHIBIT PARKING ON UNIMPROVED SURFACE OR WHICH WE DO.
YOU DO THAT AND YOU COULD RESTRICT CERTAIN PARKING
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OR YOU ALLOW PARKING IN THE GRASS AND THEN CREATE NO PARKING ON CERTAIN AREAS OF THE STREET.IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT YOUR GOAL IS.
AND IT ONLY AFFECTS TWO STREETS IN THE MEADOWS AND, WELL, NOT JUST TWO.
WELL, IT'S NOT, IT'S, IT'S MORE THAN JUST TWO BECAUSE I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE EVEN, WE EVEN SEE IT BACK IN CHERRY POINT AND SOME OF THOSE STREETS WHERE WE'VE GOT CARS THAT ARE A HUNDRED PERCENT PARKED IN PEOPLE'S FRONT YARDS FOR DAYS UPON A TIME.
WE'RE NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT FOR A FEW HOURS OR AN EVENT.
IT JUST, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WAY TO PUT IT, IT'S JUST NOT A CLEAN LOOK FOR THE CITY IS, IS MY OPINION.
BUT, BUT ALSO UNDERSTAND THE ENFORCEMENT PIECE.
SO AS FAR AS THE FRONT YARDS GO, WE, WE HAVE THAT COVERED.
THEY CAN'T PARK IN THE FRONT YARD.
THE QUESTION HERE IS THE DITCH, THE BAR DITCH.
SO DO YOU HAVE THE CODE SECTION THAT PREVENTS IT FROM PARKING IN THE FRONT YARD? VIRGINIA ESTATES OFFICE? UH, WE HAVE THAT UNPRO, REMEMBER THE ONE WE WAS WORKING ON WITH THE UNIMPROVED PARKING? THEY HAVE TO HAVE, UH, ALL WEATHER SURFACE TO PARK ON.
IT MIGHT NOT BE IN THE RIGHT PLACE.
I MEAN THAT'S THE ONE WE'VE BEEN ENFORCING.
WELL, I I THINK WHAT SHE LOOKED AT IS IT WAS UNDER, UH, THE WRONG CODE CHAPTER OR SOMETHING.
I THINK IT'S IN YOUR ZONING ORDINANCE.
WHICH CAN YOU MAKE IT, IT, UH, BE A DIFFERENT ENFORCEMENT? I'M JUST THROWING THIS OUT THERE.
CAN YOU MAKE IT, UH, WHERE YOU CAN, YOU HAVE TO BE TWO FOOT FROM THE, THE DRAINAGE UP THE BOTTOM OF THE DITCH BACK TOWARDS THE ROAD AS LONG AS YOU HAVE A WAVE FOREST.
THAT WAY IT'S NOT, I MEAN, YOU'RE IN THE GRASS BUT YOU'RE NOT IMPEDING FLOW OF WATER IF IT'S RAINING.
I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE.
IT'S, I GOT PLENTY OF ROOM IN MY DRIVEWAY TO PARK.
YEAH, THE, THE PROBLEM IS, I UNDERSTAND YOU, YOU CAN MAKE HOWEVER YOU MAKE IT, IT IS JUST GONNA HAVE TO BE A WAY WE CAN ENFORCE IT AND KNOW WHERE THAT CERTAIN POINT IS THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO.
SO THE, THE ORDINANCE WOULD HAVE TO LAY OUT, HERE'S WHERE YOU CAN BE TWO FOOT FROM, IS THE BOTTOM OF THIS DITCH OVER HERE OR IS IT OVER HERE? OR IF IT'S FLAT IN FRONT OF SOMEONE'S HOME, WHERE'S THAT DITCH? YEAH.
UM, BUT I'M NOT THE ONE THAT HAS TO WRITE IT.
SO
THEN YOU CAN CREATE BASICALLY A NO PARKING FROM LET'S SAY LIKE 9:00 PM TO 6:00 AM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I DON'T SEE HOW, BUT AGAIN, IF THAT'S YOUR GOAL, I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR ULTIMATE GOAL IS HERE.
IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU JUST DON'T WANT THEM PARKING ON THE GRASS.
UM, ESSENTIALLY IT'S, IT'S JUST A SAFETY CONCERN FOR THE, THE, THE FIRED VEHICLES APPARATUS.
HE SAID POLICE CARS AFTER TROUBLE GETTING DOWN THERE SOMETIMES, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE OF WHERE THE CARS ARE PARKED RIGHT.
SO THEN IF YOU ARE TRYING TO PREVENT CARS BEING PARKED ON THE STREET FOR CERTAIN TIMES, THEN MAYBE Y'ALL NEED TO CREATE A NO PARKING TIME ZONE IN CERTAIN AREAS ON CERTAIN STREETS.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE ULTIMATE GOAL.
WELL I I DON'T THINK IF YOU TELL SOMEBODY YOU CAN'T PARK THE HALF AND HALF THING, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE PEOPLE FROM HERE PARKING IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE MM-HMM
AND NOW THEY'RE GONNA BE UPSET.
UM, I THINK THAT CREATES MORE PROBLEMS THAN GOOD, BUT WE'LL ENFORCE WHATEVER YOU PUT IN PLACE WHEN WE HAVE FAMILIES IN THE MEADOWS THAT THEY HAVE FIVE OR SIX DRIVERS IN THEIR HOME.
SO LIKE SOMETIMES IT'S INEVITABLE THEY HAVE TO PARK IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE, CAN'T FIT ALL FOUR VEHICLES IN THEIR DRIVEWAYS.
I THINK WHERE YOU TYPICALLY SEE NO PARKING IN THE STREET IS THEY HAVE AN ALLEYWAY IN THE BACK.
BUT I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO, YOU'RE GOING TO, IF YOU CREATE AN ORDINANCE THAT SAYS YOU CAN'T PARK IN FRONT OF CERTAIN HOUSES, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE PEOPLE COME TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT.
I MEAN, I, I WOULDN'T WANT AN ORDINANCE IF I HAD A HOUSE THERE.
I WOULDN'T WANT AN ORDINANCE THAT SAYS I CAN'T PARK IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE BUT MY NEIGHBOR CAN MM-HMM
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IT IS ALWAYS A CHANCE THERE'LL NEVER BE A FIRE SAID LEAVE WAS ALONE.I MEAN WELL THE REASON THIS WAS ORIGINALLY BROUGHT UP WASN'T FOR FIRE TRUCKS, IT WAS FOR CARS PARKING IN THE DITCH.
WE HAD A COMPLAINT ABOUT A CAR PARKING ALL THE WAY IN THE DITCH.
SO FIRETRUCK WAS JUST A SECONDARY DISCUSSION.
AND THEN I JUST WENT AND DROVE WITH HIM JUST TO KIND OF GET, I GUESS, I MEAN, UH, IF I WOULD HAVE A PROBLEM IF LIKE SOMEBODY ELSE WAS PARKING IN MY DITCH IN MY FRONT YARD, BUT IF I WANNA PARK MY CAR IN MY DITCH TO GET, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, IF I HAD, YOU KNOW, ME AND MY WIFE AND MY KIDS OR WHATEVER HAD TOO MANY VEHICLES AND SOMEBODY HAD TO PARK IN THE DITCH, I'D PARK IN MY OWN DITCH.
I WOULDN'T PARK IN SOMEBODY ELSE'S DITCH, BUT I WOULDN'T WANT NOBODY ELSE PARKING IN MY DITCH.
IS THERE AN ORDINANCE ABOUT LEAVING RUTS IN THE GRASS? NO, THERE IS LIKE THAT.
THERE IS ONE THAT YOU, YOU HAVE TO PARK ON IMPROVED SURFACE.
LIKE YOU CAN'T PARK IN THE GRASS.
SO TECHNICALLY THE COMPLAINT COULD HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED BY THAT.
THAT'S WHERE THE FIRETRUCK DISCUSSION CAME UP.
IF YOU MAKE EVERYBODY KEEP ALL FOUR WHEELS ON THE ROAD, A FIRETRUCK AND SOME CARS CAN'T MAKE IT DOWN, THEN YOU'RE
I DRIVE THE DRIVES A CHURCH BUS THROUGH THERE AND IT'S TIGHT.
YOU KNOW, SOME PLACES, SO, SO WE CAN TAKE NO ACTION AND LEAVE IT OR WE CAN CHANGE IT.
I MAKE A MOTION TO TAKE NO ACTION.
ALL IN FAVOR ALL HAVE IT'S OKAY.
ANY, ANY OF THOSE? MOTION CARRIES.
[13. Discuss and consider repealing Chapter 4, Article 4.07 Fencing and amending Chapter 9, Article 9.03 Zoning Regulations to regulate fences, walls and outdoor area enclosures. *tabled from August 20, 2026 meeting ]
THIS IS MY FAVORITE DISCUSS AND CONSIDER REPEALING CHAPTER FOUR, ARTICLE 4.07 FENCING AND AMENDING CHAPTER NINE, ARTICLE 9.03 ZONING REGULATIONS TO REGULATE FENCES, WALLS, AND OUTDOOR AREA ENCLOSURES.THIS IS ALSO TABLED FROM THE AUGUST 20TH, 2026 MEETING.
SO WE NEED A MOTION TO REMOVE IT FROM THE TABLE AND MAKE MOTION REMOVE FROM THE TABLE.
UM, SO WE'RE NOT BEATING THE DEAD HORSE AGAIN.
UM, WE GOT SOME FEEDBACK FROM THE ATTORNEY ABOUT SOME CONFLICTING ITEMS BETWEEN THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND UM, THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE.
SO SHE WENT THROUGH AND GAVE US SOME FEEDBACK.
WHAT I WOULD REQUEST, IF YOU WANT TO CONSIDER IS THAT WE GO AHEAD AND REPEAL THE FENCING ORDINANCE AND THEN WE WILL COME BACK TO YOU NEXT MONTH WITH THE ZONING ORDINANCE, UPDATE WITH THE SPECIFICS ON THE CHANGES RECOMMENDED FROM THE ATTORNEY.
AND Y'ALL CAN SPLIT IT UP THAT WAY OR YOU CAN DO IT ALL IN ONE SWOOP.
EITHER WAY, WHATEVER Y'ALL WANNA DO, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO REPEAL THE FENCING ORDINANCE.
WE WILL COME BACK NEXT MONTH WITH SOMETHING FOR YOU TO READ.
[14. Convene into executive session pursuant to Texas Government Code Section S51.071(2) on a matter in which the duty of the attorney to the governmental body under the Texas Disciplinary Rules of Professional Conduct of the State Bar of Texas clearly conflicts with Chapter 551 of the Texas Government Code, to receive legal advice from the Town's legal counsel regarding the City's hail damage insurance claim. ]
CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.0712 ON A MATTER IN WHICH THE DUTY OF THE ATTORNEY TO THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY UNDER THE TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT OF THE STATE BAR OF TEXAS CLEARLY CONFLICTS WITH CHAPTER 5 51 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE TO RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE FROM THE TOWN'S LEGAL COUNSEL REGARDING THE CITY'S HELD DAMAGE INSURANCE CLAIM.I WOULD ALSO ASK THAT WE ADD TO THAT EXECUTIVE SESSION UNDER THE SAME SUBSECTION TO ALSO DISCUSS A DEMAND LETTER WE RECENTLY RECEIVED.
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I MAKE A MOTION TO ENTER EXECUTIVE SESSION.EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THE DEMAND LETTER AND THE HALE INSURANCE CLAIM.
ANY YOU OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.
WE JUST NEED A MOTION TO MOVE OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION BACK INTO REGULAR.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION AND BACK INTO REGULAR SECOND.
ITEM NUMBER 15, CONSIDER AND TAKE ANY ACTIONS NECESSARY RELATIVE TO ITEMS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
DO WE NEED TO TAKE ANY ACTION? NO.
[16. Discuss and receive updates on current City projects from the City Administrator and staff. ]
DISCUSS AND RECEIVE UPDATES ON CURRENT CITY PROJECTS FROM THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR AND STAFF.UM, JUST, I GUESS THE BIGGEST THING IS THE BALL FIELDS.
GO BY AND SEE THEM IF YOU HAVE NOT THE MDD PUT A BIG CHUNK OF MONEY DOWN AND THEY LOOK REALLY GOOD.
SO, UM, MANAI WILL LET YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE COMES UP.
I GUESS WE AIN'T, WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN OUR FISH YET.
OH, I THOUGHT YOU SAID WE HAD THOSE.
I WAS GONNA ASK YOU IF THEY WERE STILL ALIVE.
YEAH, BUT WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN THE CART.
THERE ARE SPECIFIC VENDORS THAT SELL THAT CARP THAT WE HAVE TO GO PICK UP
IT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE IT'S MADE MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE.
THAT'S LIKE GIVING A WELL OF TIC-TAC.
SO I THINK THEY'RE GONNA GET OUT THERE ON THE BOAT AND DO THE LOOPY LOU AND DRAG IT AROUND.
SO JUST NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN.