Jan 15, 2026 City Council

ITEM NUMBER SIX, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER FOR POSSIBLE ACTION RECOMMENDING A FINAL MINOR PLAT OF REAL PROPERTY DESCRIBED AS LOT ONE BLOCK A NEW PALMER YARD SITUATED IN OUR DE LA PENA SURVEY, ABSTRACT NUMBER THREE, CITY OF PALMER, ELLIS COUNTY, TEXAS, AND CONSISTING OF APPROXIMATELY 20.332 ACRES AT SAID TIME, THE COUNCIL MAY CONSIDER FOR POSSIBLE ACTION APPROVING THE FINAL MINOR PLAT.

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WE NEED TO REMOVE THIS ITEM FROM THE TABLE.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO REMOVE IT FROM THE TABLE.

A SECOND.

SINCE THIS IS LINKED TO NUMBER SEVEN, DO YOU WANT US TO GO TO NUMBER SEVEN, UNT THAT, AND THEN GO BACK 'CAUSE IT OR CAN.

IT'S UP TO YOU HOW YOU WANNA HANDLE THE DISCUSSION PORTION, BUT JUST REMEMBER THAT FOR VOTING PURPOSES, WE NEED TO, UM, DO THE REPL FIRST BEFORE WE CAN DO THE ZONING CHANGE.

SO I WOULD GO AHEAD AND IF YOU WANT TO READ NUMBER SEVEN AND THEN YOU CAN OPEN DISCUSSION FOR BOTH.

DISTRICT TWO WIT APPROXIMATELY 20.332 ACRE TRACT OF REAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT OR ABOUT LOT ONE BLOCK A NEW PALMER YARD SITUATED IN OUR DE LA PENA SURVEY, ABSTRACT NUMBER THREE, CITY OF PALMER, ELLIS COUNTY, TEXAS.

ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN APPLICATION OF JOSE CASTRO FROM WEBER LLC AND ON BEHALF OF THE OWNER PARKLINE I 45 LLC, REQUESTING AN AMENDMENT TO THE PALMER ZONING ORDINANCE TO PERMIT AN INDUSTRIAL USE OF MORE THAN 30% OF THE LAND AREA THAT IS CURRENTLY ZONED PD R THREE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AND HAS A BASE DISTRICT ZONING OF R THREE RESIDENTIAL

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AND TO AMEND THE CITY ZONING MAP TO REFLECT SAID ZONING CHANGES AT SAID TIME, THE COUNCIL MAY CONSIDER FOR POSSIBLE ACTION ADOPTING AN ORDINANCE APPROVING THE AMENDMENT.

THIS IS ALSO TABLED FROM THE DECEMBER 18TH, 2025 MEETING.

SO I'LL NEED A MOTION TO REMOVE IT FROM THE TABLE.

I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE REMOVE, UM, THIS FROM THE, UM, TABLE.

YOU NEED A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING OR YES, PLEASE MAKE A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I SECOND.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? DO I THINK AT OUR LAST MEETING WE DISCUSSED IF THERE WAS EVENTUALLY GOING TO BE AN EXIT AND AN ENTRANCE ON DALLAS STREET, AND I SEE IN HERE THAT EVENTUALLY THERE WILL BE AN EXIT AND AN ENTRANCE ON DALLAS STREET, CORRECT? MM-HMM .

EVENTUALLY YES, BUT AN EXIT.

AN EXIT.

OVERSIZED LOADS ON THE GENERAL IDEA IS THAT WE WOULD ONLY USE THAT AS AN EXIT WHEN WE HAD LOADS THAT NEEDED TO GO DIRECTLY TO THE FREEWAY.

SOUTH OUT OF, OKAY, OUT OF, OUT OF YOUR YARD ONTO DALLAS AND THEN ONTO THE 45? YES.

THE LOADS ARE TOO BIG TO GO DOWN THE SERVICE ROAD AND TURN, TURN THE CORNER AND JUST GET ON THAT WAY.

THAT'S RIGHT.

ARE THEY TOO LONG OR WHAT? TOO HEAVY, TOO LONG.

AND I SEE THE MOCK-UP THAT WAS SENT OF THE LIVING SCREEN, IS THIS GONNA BE TAKEN CARE OF AND IS IT GONNA BE WATERED AND MAINTAINED SO IT'LL CONTINUE TO BE LIVING? YES.

I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE LIVING SCREEN.

IS IT GOING TO START OUT AS LITTLE ITTY BITTY TWIGS OR ARE WE GETTING SOME BIGGER TREES IN IMMEDIATELY? YES, IT IS.

WANNA START EIGHT FEET HIGHER.

EIGHT.

EIGHT FEET.

THEY'RE EIGHT FEET.

WHAT, WHAT AT THE START.

WHAT IS IT GOING TO CONSIST OF? WHAT IS GONNA BE EIGHT FEET OF THE TREE IS, UH, I BELIEVE IS WHAT THE OKAY.

OUR ENVIRONMENTAL, UH, COMPANY WE USE A LOT ON OUR, OUR PROJECTS RECOMMEND EASTERN RED CEDAR.

SO CURRENTLY Y'ALL DON'T, Y'ALL DON'T HAVE ANY OVERSIGHT LOAD OVERSIZED LOADS GOING OUT.

WHY ALL OF A SUDDEN WOULD IT CHANGE? SO WE, WE HAVE LIMITATIONS, SO LIKE, UH, HE WILL HAVE TO ANSWER THAT, BUT IF WE HAVE A PRECAST CAB, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT IS 50 FEET WIDE, 50 FEET LONG, WE CAN GET IT OUT.

I, 70 FEET, WE CANNOT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, WE DON'T BUILD THINGS THAT WE CAN'T HAUL OUT RIGHT NOW.

SO THAT'S WHY ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE WANT TO GET EXIT.

SO IT'S COMING SOONER THAN LATER THEN, RIGHT? WELL, WE HAVE NOTHING ON THE BOOKS RIGHT NOW, UH, TO USE IT, BUT WE EXPECT IN THE, IN THE FUTURE ONCE WE HAVE THE CAPABILITIES THAT YES, IT WOULD.

AND AS FAR AS THAT EXIT ON DALLAS STREET GOES, WHAT WOULD IT CONSIST OF? WOULD IT BE DRAINAGE WITH A PIPE AND THEN CONCRETE? IT CAN BE CONCRETE OR ASPHALT, WHICHEVER THE CITY OR PREFER? UH, IT'S GONNA BE TDOT'S CALL.

UM, I DO, I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

I THOUGHT AT THE LAST MEETING WE WERE TOLD THAT THIS WAS, THIS SPACE WAS JUST GONNA BE USED FOR STORAGE.

UH, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT YOU GUYS WERE GOING TO BE INCREASING THIS.

SORRY.

THE SIZE THAT

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YOU'RE MAKING.

WELL, IT'S THE MAIN, THE MAIN REASON FOR THE ADDITIONAL PROPERTY IS TO INCREASE THE STORAGE UHHUH.

BUT WE'LL STILL BE MAKING THE PRODUCTS YES.

THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY MAKING THEM MM-HMM .

BUT THEN THE, THE OVERSIZED LOADS WOULD TRAVEL THROUGH THERE AND, AND COME OUT.

I'M SORRY.

I'M JUST, UM, I'M JUST TRYING TO, TRYING TO CLARIFY BECAUSE RIGHT NOW YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE THOSE OVERSIZED LOADS THAT CAN'T TURN FROM THE SERVICE ROAD, UM, WHERE THEY'RE EXITING CURRENTLY.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO BE CREATING EVEN LARGER, UH, I'M SORRY, I DUNNO WHAT TO CALL THEM.

YOU'RE GOING TO BE CREATING EVEN LARGER ONES AND THEY WON'T BE ABLE, THEY'RE GONNA BE TOO, I'M SORRY, DID DID YOU SAY TOO LONG? I WROTE IT DOWN.

I WROTE YEAH.

TOO, TOO LONG.

TOO LONG TO TURN.

SO YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO BE CREATING ADDITIONAL STUFF.

WHEN WE WERE TOLD IT WAS JUST STORAGE ON THE, ON THE, ON THE NEW PROPERTY.

IT WOULD BE JUST STORAGE.

ON THE EXISTING PROPERTY, RATHER THAN MAKE SOMETHING 50 FEET LONG, WE MIGHT MAKE SOMETHING 70 OR 80 FEET LONG AND THEN JUST TRAVEL THROUGH THE NEW PROPERTY BECAUSE WE, THAT'S THE WAY WE GET IT TO THE HIGHWAY.

WE'RE NOT GONNA USE IT.

AND IT'S 99% OF THE TIME WE'RE GONNA USE IT FROM ROAD.

IT'S ONLY IN CASE WE PRODUCE SOME PIECES A BIT LONGER TO HAVE THAT, THAT OPTION TO THE, THE, THE DALLAS STREET EXIT.

BUT IT'S GONNA BE 99% OF THE LOADS.

THE, THE ROCK, THE SUN, EVERYTHING IS GONNA BE THROUGH THE CURRENT ENTRANCE AND EXIT.

BE LIKE THE PICTURE, BUT EXPANDED.

IT'S GONNA COME ALL THE WAY.

TO THAT, THAT RIGHT THERE'S GONNA COME OUT.

BE THAT WHOLE AREA.

BUT LIKE YOU SAID, THEY'LL HAVE A, IF THEY MAKE SOMETHING, THEY'LL DRIVE IT THROUGH THERE AND COME OUT OVER HERE.

BUT YOU CAN STILL SEE ON THE TREES.

YOU COULD ARE, YEAH.

DO THOSE TREES, I'M NOT, THESE ARE THE CEDARS.

DO THEY GROW AND SPREAD OUT TO WHERE IT'S LIKE A, A WALL WHERE YOU CAN'T SEE THROUGH? THAT'S THE PLAN THAT WOULD TAKE A, THE IMAGE IS, UH, IS NOT, THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS IS NOT EXACTLY, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT THE TREES THOUGH, IS IT? YEAH.

IN IN IN THE PICTURE.

IN THIS PICTURE, YEAH.

YOU CAN STILL SEE THROUGH EVERYTHING.

I DON'T THINK THOSE ARE THE TREES.

NO, SIR.

THE, WE HAD A, OUR, OUR ENGINEER THREW SOME TREES TOGETHER, BUT WE GOT TWO THINGS GOING AT THE SAME TIME.

THAT'S NOT THE TYPE OF TREES.

SO A CEDAR GROWS, IT'S LIKE A EVERGREEN.

SO IT'S GONNA GROW AT THE BOTTOM.

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO.

IT'S NOT GONNA HAVE A TRUNK THAT'S GONNA SHOW, IT'S GONNA HAVE A CHRISTMAS TREE.

LIKE A CHRISTMAS TREE.

BUT THEY'RE GONNA BE PUT CLOSE ENOUGH TO WHERE YOU CAN, IT'LL BE A WALL BASICALLY.

THAT'S THE GOAL.

YES.

SO THAT'S AN EASTERN RED CEDAR.

I HAVE 'EM IN MY BACKYARD.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ARE LEVEL, WHEN THEY FLY OUT FROM THE SOUTH, WHAT'S YOUR MATERIAL THAT'S IN THE EXISTING YARD THAT'S ON, THAT YOU'RE DRIVING ON NOW? I KNOW YOU GAVE US OF WHAT? A SIX INCH BASE CONSISTING OF THE CRUSHED.

IS IT GONNA BE LIKE CRUSHED CONCRETE? YES.

YES.

THAT'S THE EXISTING AND THAT'S WHAT'S THERE NOW? YES.

SO WHAT'S THE HEAVIEST LOAD THAT YOU'LL EVER CARRY? NO.

WHAT'S, WHAT WOULD BE THE, WHAT WOULD BE THE WEIGHT OF A LOAD THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE IF YOU MAKE, IF YOU MAKE THE NEW SIZE, WHAT IS GOING, WHAT'S THE HEAVIEST POUNDS? SO WE HAVE WHOLE HEAVY PIECES, BUT SHORT PIECES, WE HAVE WHOLE HUNDRED THOUSAND POUNDS LOAD BEFORE THE, IS, WE HAVE THE LIMITATION OF THE LENGTH.

BE AROUND THAT 20.

AROUND HOW 30,000? IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? 120.

120.

OUR CRANES 50,000 POUNDS MAXIMUM.

SO NOTHING, NOTHING WILL EVER, WELL, YOU CAN'T EXCEED WHAT THE ROAD RATES ANYWAY.

RIGHT.

THAT'S WITHOUT A PERMIT.

PERMIT.

AND WE DO PERMIT.

NO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO PERMITS ALL THE TIME.

THAT'S RIGHT.

YES, SIR.

GOT IT.

AND THOSE PERMITS GO THROUGH TDOT, RIGHT? YES.

ANY QUESTIONS ON NUMBER SEVEN? UM, I, I DO.

ABOUT HOW LONG DO YOU THINK, OR, UM,

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HOW OFTEN? I'M SORRY.

NOT HOW LONG DO YOU THINK THAT YOU GUYS MIGHT BE DOING THESE LARGER LOADS? 99% OF PRODUCTION IS GONNA BE THE SAME AS WE NOW.

CONCRETE BARRIERS.

UM, UM, FOR RICHES, SMALL THINGS THAT WE PROJECT THE COMPANY WINS.

1% OF 2%.

IT MAY, IT MAY NOT HAPPEN.

THERE MIGHT BE A YEAR WHERE IT HAPPENS 20 TIMES AND THEN GO THREE YEARS BEFORE IT HAPPENS AGAIN.

ALL RIGHT.

I JUST HAVE A, A CONCERN ABOUT THE, THE STREETS, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE'RE TRYING REALLY HARD TO IMPROVE OUR, OUR ROADS AND WE DON'T WANT THEM TORE UP.

SO THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN.

CASE SCENARIO ABOUT 50 LOADS.

60 LOADS.

IT WOULDN'T BE ALL IN ONE NIGHT OR IT WOULD BE MORE THAN LIKELY LOADS PER EVENING OR NIGHT.

MOST OF THE TIME THESE THINGS HAPPEN NIGHT WHERE WE'RE PUTTING THEM ON THE ROADWAY.

WHEN YOU'RE SETTING 'EM ON A PROJECT, YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT TAKING ALL OF 'EM AT ONCE.

IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

A FEW, MAYBE THREE OR FOUR NIGHTS IN A ROW MM-HMM .

AND THEN SKIP A COUPLE WEEKS, COME DO A COUPLE MORE, AND THEN PROBABLY WAIT EIGHT MONTHS.

FLOW OF THE PROJECTS COULD BE LIKE THAT.

SO HOW DO YOU CONTAIN THE DUST? I SAW THAT YOU SAID YOU HAVE WATER CAN.

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE TYPICALLY DO.

UH, JUST WATER THE MOVES WHERE, WHERE BASICALLY NOTHING MOVES UNTIL YOU MOVE ON IT.

AND SO WHAT WE DO IS WE DRIVE THE WATER TRUCK AROUND ON THE ROADWAY.

WELL, I MEAN, WHAT WE CAN PROMISE TO DO IS IF, IF THERE IS, YOU KNOW, WE, WE CAN MITIGATE FURTHER.

THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS.

IF DUST COMES, I CAN GO THROUGH 'EM IF YOU'D LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, ON, ON A LOT OF COUNTY ROADS.

UM, AND I SHOULD SPEAK, I, I LIVE IN HOUSTON, SO THE COUNTY ROADS NEAR WHERE I LIVE, WHICH IS NOT HERE, UM, A LOT OF TIMES THEY'LL HAVE A BASE ROAD, SAME MATERIALS WHERE WE'RE PUTTING DOWN AND THEY'LL PUT WHAT THEY CALL A CHIP SEAL COURSE ON TOP OF IT.

WHICH IS OIL IN A, IN A SMALL ROCK.

AND THAT'S THE DRIVING SURFACE THAT, THAT THE REST OF THE VEHICLES DRIVE ON.

THAT'S AN OPTION IF, IF THE DUST BECOMES A, IF WE HAVE THE EQUIPMENT, IT'S NOT A HUGE ISSUE.

MM-HMM.

WHEN, IF, IF ALL OF THIS WAS, UM, PASSED BY THE COUNCIL, WHEN WOULD YOU START CONSTRUCTION? WHEN WOULD THE LIVING WALL GO IN? HOW LONG WOULD ALL OF THIS TAKE? FOR, FOR THE EXPANSION OF THE NEW YARD, ASSUMING THAT THE TAIL GOES THROUGH A FAIR ESTIMATE.

SO PROBABLY WITHIN THAT YEAR, I WOULD ASSUME, UH, FOR SURE THE TREES WOULD GO UP AND WE COULD, WE COULD PROBABLY AFTER THE SCHEDULE ON THAT, PUSH THE TREES TO START THE WHOLE THING.

I THINK THAT WOULD MAKE A LOT OF SENSE.

UM, START WITH THE TREES AND THEN WORK OUR WAY BACK AND, AND AS FAR AS THE, THE REST OF THE MATERIAL GOING DOWN, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR INITIAL PLAN WAS NOT TO DO IT ALL DAY.

ONE, IT WAS AS NEEDED.

UM, AND AS TIME WE GROW AND, AND WE NEED MORE STORAGE WAS THEN, OKAY, LET'S TAKE ONE ACRE AND MAKE MORE STORAGE.

SO WE WERE, WE WERE GONNA DO SMALL LITTLE PROJECTS OVER TIME AS FAR AS EXPANDING OUT THE WORKPLACE BASE.

ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT VISIBILITY? THAT'S THE FIRST THING WHEN YOU COME INTO OUR TOWN, YOU'D SEE ALL THE CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT BEFORE IT GETS GOING.

THAT'S WHAT IN TO BUILD THE SCREEN FIRST.

RIGHT? TO BUILD THE SCREEN.

WE CAN DEFINITELY PUSH THAT ON THE, ON THE SCHEDULE.

SO IN ORDER TO DO THAT, PROBABLY THERE WOULD BE SOME DOZER ACTIVITY TO MAKE, KINDA MAKE EVERYTHING READY, PLANT THE TREES.

SO THERE'D BE SOME EQUIPMENT OUT THERE FOR THE START WATERING AND THE BACKSIDE OF THOSE TREES AS THEY'RE GROWING, PLACING THE BASE.

SO I WOULDN'T SAY WE HAD A HARD TIME FRAME.

UH, YEAH, I JUST KIND OF WANTED AN APPROXIMATE AND, AND NOW THAT YOU SAID THAT THE LIVING SCREEN WOULD START IT, THEN THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.

I THINK WE CAN START WITH THAT AND IT WOULD HELP WITH THE CONCERN OF WHAT THE CITY, THE VISIBILITY.

YEAH, THE VISIBILITY.

PUT IT UP RIGHT AWAY AND START WATERING IT RIGHT AWAY AND LET THE TREES GROW.

SO YOU USE CHIP AND SEAL ON A LOT OF YOUR YARDS? NO, NOT ON OUR YARDS.

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UM, LIKE ON JUST, JUST THE ROADS.

WE BUILD ROADWAYS OUT OF MANY DIFFERENT SURFACES THAT YOU CAN IMAGINE, BUT CONCRETE ASPHALT.

BUT THERE ARE ROADS THAT JUST GET THE CHIP SEAL.

WHAT I'M REFERRING TO IS OIL THAT GETS SPRAYED AND ROCK THAT GETS SPREAD.

UM, THAT'S IT.

SO YOU, YOU ROLL IT SOFTLY, ROLL IT.

NO, SOMETIMES , WE'VE HAD THAT HAPPEN, HUH? IF YOU DO IT RIGHT, IT SHOULDN'T, SHOULDN'T IT BE A PROBLEM? , ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON ITEM SEVEN'S PUBLIC HEARING? NO, MA'AM.

I NEED A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING, A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I SECOND.

OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

SO WE'RE GONNA GO BACK TO ITEM NUMBER SIX, DISCUSSED AND CONSIDER FOR POSSIBLE ACTION RECOMMENDING A FINAL MINOR PLAT OF REAL PROPERTY.

DO I HAVE TO READ THE WHOLE THING AGAIN? THANK YOU ON THIS.

OH, YOU DON'T HAVE TO READ IT AGAIN? NO.

JUST A REMINDER WITH PLATS AND REPL, AS LONG AS IT COMPLIES WITH ALL OF OUR ORDINANCES AND REQUIREMENTS, IT, IT, YOU HAVE TO PASS IT AS A MATTER OF, RIGHT.

SO I JUST NEED A MOTION FOR THE PLAT OF REAL PROPERTY.

SO BEFORE WE DO, MAYBE WE WANNA GET A CONFIRMATION FROM AARON IF, UH, THIS COMPLIES WITH ALL OF OUR REQUIREMENTS.

SHE SAID IT DID LAST TIME, I'M PRETTY SURE.

SO WE DON'T EVEN GET TO VOTE ON THIS, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? NO, YOU VOTE ON IT, BUT YOU HAVE TO PROVE IT.

YOU CAN VOTE ON NUMBER SEVEN.

NUMBER SEVEN IS THE ZONING.

THE PLAT IS DIFFERENT.

SO THEY'RE WANTING TO HAVE THE, THE PLAT IS COMPLETELY SEPARATE FROM THE ZONING, THAT'S WHY IT'S TWO ITEMS. DO YOU WANT US TO GO TO NUMBER SEVEN FIRST? YES, YOU CAN PLEASE.

YOU CAN DISCUSS NUMBER SEVEN, BUT YOU CAN'T TAKE ACTION ON SEVEN UNTIL WE'VE TAKEN ACTION ON SIX.

RIGHT.

SO WE NEED TO GO BACK TO NUMBER SEVEN TO DISCUSS.

SO ARE WE GOING BACK TO NUMBER SEVEN? ARE WE VOTING ON SEX RIGHT NOW OR, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T VOTE ON NOT, NOT VOTING.

I'M, SHE HAS, I APOLOGIZE.

I THINK SHE HAS MORE QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS ON SEVEN.

SO WE'RE GOING TO SEVEN.

YEAH, I JUST STILL HAVE CONCERNS.

SO DURING THIS DISCUSSION, BECAUSE UH, THIS IS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, A PD, UM, YOU CAN ADD WHATEVER CONDITIONS YOU WANT IN THIS ZONING CHANGE.

SO I WOULD JUST ASK THAT DURING THIS DISCUSSION.

UM, LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU WANT IN THAT PD ORDINANCE SO THAT I CAN TAKE NOTES AND MAKE SURE DRAFT ACCORDINGLY.

WHAT IS IT YOU'RE WANTING TO SEE? I DON I DON'T WANNA SEE IT THERE.

OKAY, SO WHAT IS THAT? HOW DO I VOTE FOR THAT MOTION TO, SO I MAKE A MOTION TO DENY IT.

WE CAN'T TAKE ACTION ON NUMBER SEVEN YET.

SO WE WERE JUST ON SEVEN.

WELL WE ARE DISCUSSING IT.

WE HAVE TO DO NUMBER SIX FIRST JUST FOR DISCUSSION.

OR JUST A REMINDER IS, UM, THIS APPLICANT, BOTH OF THESE KIND OF GO TOGETHER HAND IN HAND.

SO THERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY IF NECESSARY, WE CAN GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FROM THE ATTORNEY OR ANY OTHER EXCEPTIONS UNDER THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT.

UM, THE OTHER OPTION

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SO IF YOUR INCLINATION IS TO DENY THE ZONING WITHOUT TAKING ACTION, IF THAT'S WHERE YOUR DISCUSSION LEADS, THEN WE CAN ASK THE APPLICANT IF THEY WANT TO WITHDRAW THEIR PLAT REQUEST.

I WOULD RECOMMEND

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WE MOVE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION SECOND REQUEST.

AND IS THAT TO, UH, FOR LEGAL CONSULTATION? YES MA'AM.

IF WE COULD JUST NOTE THE TIME THAT WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE 6 56.

I NEED A MOTION TO MOVE TO EXECUTIVE RECESSION.

I NEED A MOTION TO RESUME COUNSEL.

I MAKE A MOTION TO RESUME COUNSEL.

SECOND.

OKAY, WE'RE GONNA GO BACK TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, A DISCUSSION ON THE, UM, WEBER, UM, PALMER ZONING ORDINANCE TO PERMIT THE INDUSTRIAL USE OF MORE THAN 30% OF THE LAND AREA.

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DID WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION REGARDING THAT? UM, I THINK THAT INSTEAD OF A SIX INCH THICK FLEX BASE LAYER THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE CHIP AND SEAL ON THE NEW ROADS ON, ON EXHIBIT B.

SURE.

DO YOU WANT US TO GO BACK TO A PUBLIC HEARING? NO.

NO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE APPLICANT.

ON THE NEW ROADS THAT ARE BUILT ON THE YES.

ON THE NEW SECTION, THE CHIP AND SEAL.

AND I THINK AS, UH, AS WE DISCUSSED EARLIER, UH, THE, THE, THE LIVING SCREEN BE INSTALLED FIRST AND B CLOSE ENOUGH, YOU KNOW, WITHIN WHATEVER ARBORIST SAYS THEY NEED TO BE PLANTED.

SO IT WILL COVER AND MAKE A SCREEN, NOT BE ABLE TO SEE THROUGH IT.

MAYBE LIKE 10 FOOT TREES IF YOU CAN GET 'EM.

AND THEN ANY POTENTIAL EXIT OFF OF, UH, NORTH DALLAS STREET, IT WILL COMPLY WITH TDOT? YES.

ALRIGHT.

ANYTHING ELSE? I JUST HAVE THE CONCERN ABOUT IT BEING THE STRAIGHT LINE IF THOSE TREES HAVE TO BE SO FAR APART, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT Y'ALL, SO ON THE LIVING SCREEN, WHAT WE DISCUSSED WAS IF AN ARBORIST OR IF A LANDSCAPER SEEMS NECESSARY THAT WE STAGGER 'EM SO THAT YOU DON'T SEE, DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE SAYING? WE WANT IT TO BE A SOLID SO THAT WE DON'T SEE IN BETWEEN THEM.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? OKAY.

PERFECT.

OKAY, ANY OTHER, UM, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN? OKAY, WE'RE GONNA MOVE BACK TO ITEM NUMBER SIX AND WE'RE GOING TO, UM, LOOK AT THE FINAL MINOR PLAT OF THE REAL PROPERTY DESCRIBED AS LOT ONE BLOCK, A NEW PALMER YARD SITUATED IN OUR DE LAINA SURVEY, ABSTRACT NUMBER THREE, CITY OF PALMER, ELLIS COUNTY, TEXAS, CONSISTING OF 20.332 ACRES AT SET TIME, THE COUNCIL MAY CONSIDER FOR POSSIBLE ACTION IN APPROVING THE FINAL MINOR PLAT.

I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE FINAL MINOR PLAT AT LOT ONE BLOCK A NEW PALMER YARD.

SECOND.

I DON'T HAVE TO READ THE WHOLE THING AGAIN.

ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS, UM, HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER APPROVAL AND APPLICATION OF JOSE CASTRO FROM WEBER.

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SO WE'RE GONNA BE CHANGING THAT FROM A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT HAS A BASE DISTRICT ZONING OF R THREE.

SO IT LOOKS LIKE WE, UM, THERE ARE SOME, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERATIONS AND THINGS THAT THE, THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO SEE.

SO THOSE EXCEPTIONS WOULD BE THE LIVING SCREEN WOULD BE 10 FOOT TREES STAGGERED, POTENTIALLY, JUST SO THAT IT IS A, UH, DENSE SCREEN CHIP AND SEAL HAS SEEN ON EXHIBIT B FOR THE ROADS AND THAT THE DRIVEWAY BE TDO COMPLIANCE ONTO DALLAS STREET.

DID I MISS ANYTHING? MM-HMM .

I DON'T THINK SO.

SO IF YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, WE CAN GET A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THOSE EX CONSIDERATIONS.

YES MA'AM.

WELL, JUST WITHOUT TELLING HOW TO VOTE, BUT IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION, OH YES.

IF, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE ADDITIONS OUTLINED BY THE MAYOR.

I, I'LL SECOND.

ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER FOR POSSIBLE ACTION A RESOLUTION ORDERING A GENERAL MUNICIPAL ELECTION FOR THE CITY OF PALMER, TEXAS TO BE HELD ON THE SECOND DAY OF MAY, 2026 TO ELECT THREE ALDERMAN POSITIONS FOR TWO YEAR TERMS, PROVIDING FOR PUBLICATION AND POSTING OF NOTICE THEREOF AND PROVIDING FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF POLLING PLACES, PROVIDING FOR CONTRACTS FOR JOINT ELECTION SERVICES AND RESOLVING OTHER MATTERS INCIDENT AND RELATED TO SUCH ELECTIONS.

[8. Discuss and consider for possible action a resolution Ordering a General Municipal Election for the City of Palmer, Texas, to be held on the 2nd day of May, 2026 to elect Three Aldermen positions for two-year terms; providing for publication and posting of notice thereof; and providing for the establishment of polling places; providing for contracts for Joint Election Services; and resolving other matters incident and related to such elections.]

AND THIS IS RESOLUTION 20 26 0 1 0 1.

I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION ORDERING A GENERAL MUNICIPAL ELECTION FOR THE CITY OF PALMER, TEXAS TO BE HELD ON THE SECOND DAY OF MAY, 2026 TO ELECT THREE ALDERMAN POSITIONS FOR TWO YEAR TERMS. I SECOND.

NUMBER NINE, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER FOR POSSIBLE ACTION ADOPTING AN ORDINANCE, REVISING THE MASTER FEE SCHEDULE TO INCLUDE AN ADMINISTRATIVE FEE OF $150 FOR THE ISSUANCE OF AN APPROVAL PERMIT OR CERTIFICATION NECESSARY FOR A THIRD PARTY DEVELOPMENT DOCUMENT REVIEW AND OR INSPECTION OF A HOME BACKUP POWER INSTALLATION.

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[9. Discuss and consider for possible action adopting an ordinance revising the Master Fee Schedule to include an administrative fee of $150.00 for the issuance of an approval, permit, or certification necessary for a third-party development document review and/or inspection of a home backup power installation.]

AND THIS IS ORDINANCE 1263.

THIS IS FOR A NEW BILL THAT WAS PASSED.

IF YOU ARE HAVING SOLAR PANELS INSTALLED, A GENERATOR, ANYTHING TO HELP SAVE ON YOUR HOME.

THERE'S A NEW BILL THAT'S PASSED THAT THE CONTRACTOR CAN USE THEIR OWN THIRD PARTY INSPECTOR TO EXPEDITE THE PROCESS.

SO I'LL STILL HAVE A PART IN THAT.

THAT'S WHY WE ARE ADDING A FEE TO THE MASTER FEE SCHEDULE.

IS IT 1236? 1263.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

10, PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING PROJECT UPDATE PRESENTED BY PUBLIC MANAGEMENT INC.

ITEM NUMBER

[10. Presentation and discussion on the Comprehensive Planning Project Update presented by Public Management, Inc., including draft Comprehensive Plan goals and objectives, an overview of community survey findings, and other related items.]

INCLUDING THE DRAFT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, GOALS AND OBJECTIVES, AN OVERVIEW OF COMMUNITY SURVEY FINDINGS AND OTHER RELATED ITEMS. Y'ALL.

I'M THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING FOR PUBLIC MANAGEMENT.

UM, AS Y'ALL KNOW, I'M WORKING ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROJECT AND SO THIS IS KIND OF, UM, THE FIRST THING THAT WE'RE GONNA BRING TO Y'ALL TO GET Y'ALL'S OPINIONS ON.

SO WE HAD A COMMUNITY SURVEY THAT'S BEEN OPEN.

UM, WE ALSO HAD THAT FIRST TOWN HALL.

UM, AND SO THIS IS KIND OF A, A COLLECTION OF GOALS AND OBJECTIVES THAT WE'VE GATHERED FROM THAT SURVEY.

THE TOWN HALL, SPEAKING WITH RESIDENTS AND STAFF AS WELL.

UM, THESE ARE, JUST THINK OF THESE AS KINDA LIKE OVERARCHING GOALS FOR THE PLAN ITSELF.

UM, EACH SECTION OF THE PLAN WILL HAVE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES, LIKE WITH SPECIFIC PROJECTS AND KIND OF MORE OF A CIP.

BUT, UM, AND THESE ARE NOT ANY SPECIFIC ORDER.

THESE ARE JUST, UH, FOUR OF THE TOP GOALS, UH, FROM THAT DATA.

SO FIRST ONE WE HAVE BUILD, MAINTAIN, RESILIENT AND RELIABLE INFRASTRUCTURE.

UM, IF THEY WERE

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RANKED, THIS WOULD PROBABLY STILL BE NUMBER ONE.

UM, YOU KNOW, WITH ALL OUR TALKS WITH STAFF AND RESIDENTS, UM, DEFINITELY DRAINAGE, WATER, SEWER, UH, AND STREETS ARE A HIGH PRIORITY.

UM, THE OBJECTIVES JUST KIND OF GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THOSE.

UH, GOAL TWO IS TO STRENGTHEN NEIGHBORHOODS AND EXPAND QUALITY HOUSING.

UM, OBVIOUSLY A BIG PART OF THIS IS WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT FUTURE LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS AND POPULATION AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND SO JUST KEEPING IN MIND, YOU KNOW, THE KIND OF NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD, UH, GUYS INFILL WHERE WE CAN, WHERE THERE'S ALREADY INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, AND JUST FOCUS ON A REALLY GOOD QUALITY HOUSING PRODUCT FOR US RESIDENTS.

UH, NUMBER THREE IS TO ENHANCE COMMUNITY AMENITIES AND SAFETY AND CONNECTIVITY.

SO, YOU KNOW, UH, SPECIFICALLY IN THE, IN THE SURVEY WE HAD COMMENTS ABOUT SKATE PARKS, FLASH PAD, DOG PARK.

WE USUALLY GET QUITE A FEW RECREATIONAL, UH, COMMENTS IN THERE.

UM, WE ALSO HAD SEVERAL COMMENTS ABOUT STREET LIGHTING, UH, PEDESTRIAN PATHS, CONNECTIVITY FOR BIKING AND UH, WALKING, UH, MANAGED TRAFFIC AND SAFETY ON KEY CORRIDORS.

I THINK THAT'S KIND OF ALREADY IN PROCESS WITH TXDOT AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME OTHER PLANS THAT WE CAN DISCUSS.

AND THEN, UH, WE HAVE ENHANCED PUBLIC SAFETY AND EMERGENCY SERVICES.

I, I WOULD LIKE THE CHANGE TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT PUBLIC SAFETY, EMERGENCY SERVICES, UM, AND JUST, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT THE PLAN WE WANT IT TO KIND OF BE A THEME OF WHAT WHAT ELSE CAN, UH, BE INCORPORATED IN THIS PLAN THAT HELPS MAKE THEIR JOB EASIER.

SO, MM-HMM UH, AND THEN GOAL FOUR WE HAVE GUIDE BALANCE, GROWTH AND SUPPORT THE LOCAL ECONOMY.

SO AGAIN, UH, WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT LAND USE AND THEN THE ZONING UPDATE AS WELL.

UM, AND WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, EVERYTHING IS CONNECTED.

SO EACH ONE OF THESE PLANS, INFRASTRUCTURE, POPULATION, HOUSING, ALL OF THAT'S GONNA KIND OF FEED INTO THAT AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE VERY COHESIVE AND, AND THERE'S A REALLY BALANCED, UH, PLAN AS THE CITY CONTINUES TO GROW.

UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE ARREST, LAST THREE OBJECTIVES ON THIS GOAL ARE TO REALLY PROMOTE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UH, BE SUPPORTIVE TO LOCAL BUSINESSES AND, UH, MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND SEE WHAT KIND OF PARTNERSHIPS ARE OUT THERE WITH, YOU KNOW, WITHIN PALMER AND MAYBE SURROUNDING AREAS AS WELL, UH, TO KIND OF FOSTER THOSE RELATIONSHIPS.

SO THAT WAS KIND OF A GENERAL BRIEF OVERVIEW.

UM, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY FEEDBACK, ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TAKEN OUT.

UH, PUT IN.

LIKE I SAID, THESE ARE VERY PRELIMINARY AND THEY'RE NOT SET IN STONE WHATSOEVER.

SO IF Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ANY MODIFICATIONS, FEEL FREE.

THIS IS Y'ALL'S PLAN.

SO HOW DID THESE LOOK? GOOD? UH, SO I'LL JUST GIVE Y'ALL KIND OF A BRIEF, UH, UPDATE ON WHAT'S COMING.

SO WE HAVE Y'ALL'S NEXT TOWN HALL ATTENTIVELY SCHEDULED FOR AROUND MARCH APRIL TIMEFRAME.

UM, BEFORE THAT, PROBABLY IN FEBRUARY LATER OR EITHER FEBRUARY OR MARCH, WE'LL BRING TO Y'ALL OUR DRAFT LIKE 50% PLAN, UM, FOR Y'ALL TO KIND OF REVIEW.

WE'LL GIVE TO YOU IN ADVANCE AND Y'ALL CAN HAVE IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

UM, AND THEN WE'LL ALSO HAVE THE FINAL SURVEY REPORT WITH ALL THE CROSS ANALYSIS AND THINGS WE PROVIDE TO Y'ALL AS WELL.

SO MARCH, APRIL.

Y'ALL HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ME? NO.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR HARD WORK.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

UM, ITEM NUMBER 11, DISCUSS AND RECEIVE UPDATES ON CURRENT CITY PROJECTS FROM CITY ADMINISTRATOR AND STAFF.

OKAY,

[11. Discuss and receive updates on current City projects from City Administrator and staff. Update on O'Reillys Christmas Event Recap Annual City Wide Clean up April 24th and 25th Possibly creating a shredding event Campaign Round Table January 22, 2026]

UM, SO WE'VE GOT, O'REILLY'S IS SCHEDULED TO COME IN EARLY 2027.

I THINK WE'VE PROBABLY DISCUSSED THAT.

I'M GONNA REACH OUT TO THEM ABOUT THE UH, TAX ABATEMENT PROGRAM AND LET THEM KNOW WHAT'S BEING IMPLEMENTED THERE.

I HAVE A CONTACT THAT WAS JUST GIVEN TO ME.

UM, SO I'LL UPDATE YOU ON THAT.

ONCE THAT HAPPENS, THEY WILL BE LOCATED NEXT TO THE DOLLAR STORE.

UM, THE CHRISTMAS EVENT RECAP.

UM, I PERSONALLY THOUGHT IT WENT VERY WELL.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE THOUGHT, BUT WE HAD A PRETTY GOOD TURNOUT AND OUR TREE LIT UP,

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SO THAT WAS GOOD.

IT REALLY WELL.

UM, WE, WE MAY HAVE TO UM, GET A DIFFERENT TREE 'CAUSE THERE WAS SOME ISSUES WITH THE LIGHTING.

SO JUST SO EVERYBODY'S AWARE, ANOTHER TREE OR, UM, CHIEF CHIEF HAD A GOOD IDEA.

JUST WE LETTING EVERYBODY KNOW THAT KIND OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT.

UM, AND THEN THE NEXT ITEM IS THE ANNUAL CITYWIDE CLEANUP.

APRIL 24TH AND 25TH.

WE WILL NEED VOLUNTEERS FOR THAT TO HELP UNLOAD.

WE ALSO HAVE OUR GUYS ON STAFF.

UM, SO IF ANYBODY HAS TIME AND WANTS TO VOLUNTEER FOR THAT, UM, I DID HAVE SOMEONE APPROACH ME ABOUT, UH, CREATING A SHREDDING EVENT.

SO I WANTED TO AT LEAST HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT.

I GOT ONE QUOTE.

IT WAS NOT EXPENSIVE AT ALL.

IT WAS ACTUALLY VERY REASONABLE CONSIDERING IT WAS LIKE LESS THAN A THOUSAND DOLLARS.

UM, BUT THAT IS JUST FOR A SMALL AMOUNT.

MY QUESTION WOULD BE HOW, UM, HOW MUCH PAPER ARE PEOPLE STILL USING? DO YOU FEEL LIKE THAT WOULD BE AN EVENT THAT WOULD BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY OR DO YOU FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD PUT OUR DIRECTIVES ELSEWHERE? IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN POSSIBLY PUT OUT FOR THE PUBLIC TO LIKE WEIGH IN ON? WE CAN DO A SURVEY, WE CAN DO LIKE A SURVEY.

LIKE WOULD YOU USE THIS, YOU KNOW, LIKE A NEW TREE OR DO YOU WANNA SHREDDING EVENT? YES.

PICK, DO YOU WANNA DO CHRISTMAS TREE OR DO YOU WANT TO SHRED? OKAY, WE CAN HAVE A BONFIRE AND THEN HAVE A CHRISTMAS TREE.

YES.

WELL WE CAN'T PUT A SURVEY OUT.

NOT A PROBLEM.

WE CAN ABSOLUTELY DO THAT.

UM, AND THEN WE WANTED TO MENTION, UM, LINDSAY AND JORDAN'S EVENT COMING UP, WHICH IS THE CAMPAIGN ROUND TABLE, WHICH IS ON JANUARY 22ND.

UM, THAT IS FROM SIX TO 8:00 PM AND HOW MANY CANDIDATES DO YOU GUYS HAVE SIGNED UP? 23.

SO THAT WILL BE, UM, CANDIDATES THAT ARE GOING FOR POSITIONS WITHIN ELLIS COUNTY, UM, AND STATE AND AND FEDERAL.

OKAY, THERE YOU GO.

SO YOU CAN COME AND ASK THOSE CANDIDATES QUESTIONS IF YOU WANT TO VOLUNTEER TO HELP STAY AND CLEAN UP AFTER.

WE'RE LOOKING FOR PEOPLE TO HELP WITH THAT TOO.

YES SIR.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE? IF NOT NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

I MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN ACCEPTED.