Dec 18, 2025 City Council

I BELIEVE WE'RE GONNA BE MOVING

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INTO EXECUTIVE SESSIONS.

I NEED A MOTION TO MOVE IN.

I MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

I SECOND.

AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, WE'RE GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION UNDER 5 5 1 0.071 TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE.

I NEED A MOTION TO END EXECUTIVE SESSION AND RETURN TO COUNCIL.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO END EXECUTIVE SESSION.

MOVE BACK INTO CITY COUNCIL.

I SECOND.

UH, MR. CASTRO AND MR. NYAK, DO YOU HAVE ANY OPPOSITION TO US? GOING TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, HOLDING THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE APPLICATION OF THE ZONING AND THEN CIRCLING BACK TO ITEM NUMBER SIX AFTER WE DISCUSS THAT.

GONNA MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

WE'RE

[7. Hold a Public Hearing to consider approval of an application of Jose Castro from Webber, LLC and on behalf of the owner Parkline 1-45, LLC, requesting an amendment to the Palmer Zoning Ordinance to permit an industrial use of more than thirty percent (30%) of the land area that is currently zoned "PD R-3" Planned Development District and has a base district zoning of R-3 Residential District, to wit: approximately 20.332 acre tract of real property located at or about Lot 1, Block A New Palmer Yard situated in R. De La Pena Survey, Abstract No. 3, City of Palmer, Ellis County, Texas and to amend the City's Zoning map to reflect said zoning change; at said time, the council may consider for possible action adopting an ordinance approving the amendment.]

WE'RE GONNA HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN APPLICATION OF JOSE CASTRO FROM WEBER LLC AND ON BEHALF OF THE OWNER PARK LINE I 45 LLC, REQUESTING AN AMENDMENT TO THE PALMER ZONING ORDINANCE TO PERMIT AN INDUSTRIAL USE OF MORE THAN 30% OF THE LAND AREA THAT IS CURRENTLY ZONED PD R THREE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AND HAS A BASE DISTRICT ZONING OF R THREE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO IT.

APPROXIMATELY 20.332 ACRE TRACK OF REAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT OR ABOUT LOT ONE BLOCK, A NEW PALMER YARD SITUATED IN OUR DE LA PENA SURVEY, ABSTRACT NUMBER THREE, CITY OF PALMER, ELLIS COUNTY, TEXAS.

AND TO AMEND THE CITY'S ZONING MAP TO REFLECT SAID ZONING CHANGE AT SAID TIME, THE COUNCIL MAY CONSIDER FOR POSSIBLE ACTION

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ADOPTING AN ORDINANCE APPROVING THE AMENDMENT.

WE NEED A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

DO WE WANNA SET UP THE MICROPHONE FOR THEM OR, THAT'S OKAY.

THANK YOU.

SO, UH, MR. CASTRO AND MR. KNIGHT, DO Y'ALL WANNA COME UP? WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

OF COURSE.

UM, I THINK THERE'S SOME QUESTION IN REGARDS TO THE APPEARANCE FROM YOUR COMING INTO THE CITY, LIKE WHAT THAT'S GONNA BE LOOKING LIKE WHEN PEOPLE FIRST DRIVE IN, THAT'S GONNA BE THE FIRST THING THAT THEY SEE.

WHAT'S YOUR PLANS ON THAT? WHICH ONE DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE ANY PLANS TO, TO HAVE LIKE, ANY SHRUBBERY IN FRONT OF THAT SECTION OF PROPERTY WHERE THE CONCRETE BARRIERS WOULD BE STORED OR ANYTHING ALONG THOSE LINES? I MEAN, IT'S NOT GONNA CHANGE MUCH BECAUSE, UH, THE SITE THAT GOES, UH, UH, TOWARDS THIS, THIS ROAD IS GONNA BE VERY SMALL.

IT'S GONNA BE ONLY 150 FEET ON THE OTHER SIDE.

WE HAVE OTHER PROPERTY THAT IS, IS BLOCKING THE, THE VIEW FROM THE, FROM THE HIGHWAY.

SO BASICALLY YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE ANYTHING FROM THE HIGHWAY AND FROM THE ROAD.

IT'S ONLY GONNA BE ONLY 150 FEET.

AND DO, DO YOU HAVE TEXT DOT APPROVAL FOR AN ACCESS POINT THERE? NO.

NO.

I'M SAYING THAT WE'LL HAVE AN, AN ACCESS THERE.

IT'S GONNA, I SEE THAT IS THE STREET.

I SEE THAT THE, THE AREA OF THE YARD THAT IS GONNA BE NEXT TO THE ROAD IS GONNA BE ONLY 150 FEET STREET ON DALLAS STREET.

DALLAS STREET.

IS THAT GONNA HAVE AN ENTRANCE OR NO, IT JUST HAPPENS TO FACE THAT INITIALLY.

INITIALLY NOT IN THE, IN THE FUTURE.

MAYBE WE NEED TO ASK FOR, UH, EMERGENCY ACCESS THERE, THE DA TO USE TO CONTINUE USING THE EXISTING ACCESS THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE FRONT.

SO THE R 45 FRONTAGE? YES.

WELL, SO, UH, WHAT, UH, ARE Y'ALL PLANNING ON LEAVING IT GRASS OR WHAT'S, WHAT'S GONNA BE, WHAT'S GOING ON THERE? WHAT'S GONNA BE THE IT'S GONNA, I MEAN, IT'S GONNA BE THE SAME AS THE EXISTING YARD.

IT'S GONNA BE, UH, FLEX SPACE, STABILIZE THE YARD.

WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT JUST, UH, UH, REMOVE, UH, TOP SOIL AND INSTALL FLEX SPACE JUST TO MAKE IT MORE STABLE.

BUT FLEX SPACE, EXPLAIN THAT TO ME.

IS THAT ROCK? UH, YEAH.

IS IT LIKE A CALICHE WHITE ROCK THAT YOU'RE BRINGING IN? YES.

IT'S GONNA, IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE THE EXISTING YARD.

UM, WHAT ABOUT NOISE TO OUR EXISTING RESIDENCE? IS THE NOISE, APPARENTLY THE NOISE IS GOING TO GO UP BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF TRUCKS THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE BRINGING IN ADDITIONAL TO WHAT YOU HAVE ALREADY.

I MEAN THE, THE OPERATIONS ARE GONNA BE IN THE EXISTING YARD.

THE NEW YARD IS, WE ARE USUALLY ONLY TO TO STORE PRODUCTS BECAUSE WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF SPACE.

BUT ALL THE OPERATIONS, THE PRODUCTION AND EVERYTHING IS GONNA STAY AT THE SAME YARD WHERE WE'LL HAVE EVERYTHING.

THAT YARD IS GONNA BE JUST EXTRA STORAGE.

STORAGE, BUT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE TRUCKS GOING IN AND OUT OF THERE TO PICK UP.

BUT THROUGH THE SECOND ENTRANCE NOW, I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA BE READY FAR AWAY FROM THE, FROM THE DALLAS ROAD, I MEAN, RIGHT? OH, I DON'T, I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT DALLAS ROAD.

NOW WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS OUR RESIDENTS THAT LIVE JUST TO THE NORTH OF THE PLANT, HOW MANY TRUCKS ARE GONNA BE IMPACTED DAILY ON THAT AS OPPOSED TO WHAT YOU'RE DOING NOW? I MEAN, UH, IF YOU'RE GONNA BE STORING MORE PRODUCT, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE MORE TRUCKS COMING IN AND OUT TO TAKE THE PRODUCT IN AND OUT.

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I MEAN WE, I MEAN, WE DON'T, WE DON'T, IT DEPENDS ON THE MOMENT, BUT MAYBE MORE TRAFFIC.

BUT THE THING IS THERE'S THE, THE, THE AREA IS GONNA REMAIN THE SAME.

THERE'S A, A BIG AREA WITH TREES BETWEEN, BETWEEN THE OPERATIONS AND THAT, THAT NEIGHBOR, WE'RE NOT GONNA TOUCH THOSE TREES THAT THAT'S GONNA STAY AS THEY ARE.

SO THE DISTANCE FROM THE OPERATIONS NOW TO THE OPERATIONS IN THE FUTURE TO THE NEIGHBORS, TO THOSE NEIGHBORS ARE GONNA BE THE SAME.

IT'S GONNA BE THE SAME.

WE DON'T WANNA HAVE, UH, ANYTHING THAT CLOSE TO THEM AND IT'S GONNA BE THE SAME DISTANCE.

WE WANNA HAVE MORE TRAFFIC.

UH, FUTURE.

BUT I CANNOT TELL YOU IF IT'S GONNA BE 50% MORE OR IT'S GONNA BE MORE, MORE.

BUT IT'S NOT GONNA BE A BIG DIFFERENCE.

DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY GONNA BE STORING ON THIS LOT? YEAH, THE SAME, THE SAME PRODUCTS WE'RE DOING NOW, BUT, UH, WE ARE PRODUCING CONCRETE BARRIERS FOR TRAFFIC, UH, UH, DECK PANELS FOR BREACHES.

UH, OTHER PIECES FOR REACHES SOME PRECAST CONCRETE PRODUCTS WE'RE PRODUCING NOW.

IT'S BASICALLY THE SAME WE HAVE NOW, BUT TENDING THE, A MUCH LARGER SCALE.

WHAT'S YOUR CURRENT, UM, PLAN ON, I KNOW HOW YOU CURRENTLY DEAL WITH THE DUST THAT'S GENERATED FROM THAT.

HOW DO YOU MAINTAIN THAT? UH, I MEAN, WE HAVE A WATER TRUCK PERMANENTLY THERE AND WE ARE, WE ARE USING THE WATER TRUCK TO, TO, UH, DOWN WATER ALL OVER THE, THE AREA.

SO NOW GONNA BE THE SAME.

I DIDN'T ASK A, A QUESTION WHILE AGO.

WHO, WHO, WHO OWNS THE, THE REST OF THAT LOT RIGHT THERE? I MEAN, THEY, THEY'RE, WHO OWNS THAT RIGHT DOWN THERE THAT LIKE THAT TRIANGLE THAT'S GONNA BE LEFT RIGHT THERE.

UM, I'M LOOKING DO THEY OWN THAT OR SOMEBODY? HUH? THAT THIS AREA THAT'S REALLY COVERS A LOT OF DALLAS STREET RIGHT THERE.

ALL THAT RIGHT THERE.

THAT'S ON THEIR SIDE OVER THERE.

I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, THAT'S THE, THE SAME.

AND THEY'RE JUST THE SAME PROPERTY? YES.

THAT'S WHY I JUST, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.

SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT WE WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE FROM THE ROAD THAT, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL'S TALKING ABOUT YEAH.

IS COMING INTO TOWN, THEY DON'T WANNA SEE THE CONCRETE.

THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY WOULD SEE.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING? OKAY.

YOU WERE, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS DOWN HERE IN THAT CORNER, IT'S GONNA BE 50, A HUNDRED FOOT, BUT THAT MM-HMM.

BUT THERE'S NO TREES OR NOTHING BLOCKING THE VIEW ACROSS THAT FIELD.

SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A LIVING SCREEN THAT WAS POTENTIALLY COVER THAT? I THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE ASKING.

I JUST WANT, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T THINK YOU UNDERSTOOD WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS PORTION.

RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT.

I GOT YOU.

YEAH, YOU'RE FINE.

THE HALL ROADS THAT ARE ON THE DIAGRAM, IS IT GONNA BE SA THE SAME AS WHAT YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW? IS JUST WHATEVER'S IS ON, IS ON THE GROUND RIGHT NOW? OR ARE YOU GONNA ACTUALLY BUILD OUT ANY KIND OF LITTLE ROAD INSIDE OF THE LOT? NO, IT'S GONNA BE SAME, SAME AS THE OTHERS.

IT'S GONNA BE COMPACTED.

SO BASICALLY ONE BIG GIANT PAD OF CCHI, WHICH IS THE WHOLE THING NOBODY HAS THERE ON THE OTHER SIDE.

OR, YEAH.

HOW HIGH WOULD YOU BE STACKING THE PRODUCT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE PRODUCING? HOW TALL WOULD THOSE BE? UH, I MEAN AS OF NOW, THE MAXIMUM HIGH IS LIKE EIGHT, EIGHT FEET HIGH.

EIGHT FEET.

DO Y'ALL CURRENTLY HAVE ANY PLANS TO PUT ANY TYPE OF BORDER OR FENCE AROUND THE OUTLINE OF THIS NEW PROPERTY AND WE'RE PLANNING ON STANDING CONCRETE BARRIER? UH, OR AROUND THE LIMITS? UHHUH .

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IF, IF THE CONCERN IS, IS THE, THE VIEW WE CAN DO A LINE OF TREES IF NEEDED, SOUTH END OF THE PROPERTY.

IN ADDITION TO VARIOUS AND TREES, WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO LIKE A 10 FOOT CONCRETE BARRIER, UH, OR SOME SORT OF BORDER AROUND IT? SOME KIND OF, YEAH, SOME PERMANENT, A PERMANENT BAR INSTEAD OF TREES.

SOME WALL OR MM-HMM .

I MEAN, IF YOU DIDN'T PUT THAT WALL ALL THE WAY DOWN THAT FRONT, IT REALLY WOULDN'T MM-HMM .

YOU KNOW, IMPEDE THAT DIRT FROM.

I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S A WALL ON THE OTHER SIDE OF HIS EXISTING PROPERTY NOW.

SO IN THE SUMMER A LOT OF DUST BLOWS BECAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS A SOUTH WIND THAT'S BLOWING.

HOW OFTEN ARE YOU WATERING USING THE WATER TRUCK TO WATER DOWN SO THAT WE MINIMIZE THE DUST AND THE CONCRETE MATERIAL IN THAT? I MEAN, DURING DAYTIME WHEN WE'RE WORKING THERE, WE HAVE A, A WATER TRUCK FULLTIME OPERATING.

JUST CONSTANTLY WATERING IT DOWN.

SO FOR SAFETY WORKERS, OKAY, SO YES.

WHAT ARE YOUR HOURS OF OPERATION? VARIES A LITTLE BIT SUMMER TO SUMMER AND WINTER, BUT, UH, RIGHT NOW IT'S, UH, SIX, UH, AM TO 4:00 PM UH, SOMETIMES SOME PARTICULAR DAYS WE MAY HAVE TO LOAD AT NIGHT.

WE HAVE TO SOME PIECES TO A PROJECTS THAT WILL HAPPEN AT NIGHT THAT IT MAY BE ONE OR TWO DAYS A MONTH.

SO YOU USUALLY START AT 6:00 AM SIX.

6:00 AM IN, IN WINTER.

SOMETIMES WE START AT SEVEN WHEN WE CAN COLD WEATHER.

BUT YEAH, THE REGULAR OPERATIONS IS 6:00 AM TO 4:00 PM ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THIS JOB'S THE ONLY PLACE OF OPERATION.

THE ONE EXISTING.

NOW, DO Y'ALL HAVE A YARD SOMEWHERE ELSE IN ANOTHER PLACE OR SOMEWHERE ELSE? ANYWHERE? OR IS THIS THE ONLY ONE? NOT NEAR.

I MEAN, WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE IN FELS, TO THIS ONE, BUT IN HERE IN DALLAS, FORWARD AREA IS THE ONLY ONE WE HAVE.

THAT'S THE ONLY ONE.

THAT FORWARD? YES.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR QUESTIONS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANYTHING? OKAY.

I NEED A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.

I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE GIVE OTHER PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE AN OPPORTUNITY DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IT'S THERE RIGHT PAST THE TREE LINE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? COME ON UP, SIR.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WE'RE ALL PALMER.

NO, NO.

TALKING ABOUT IT IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET RIGHT HERE.

CATTY CORNER, RIGHT HERE IN THIS CORNER TO THE, YOU WANNA COME HERE AND LOOK WHAT? YEAH, COME HERE AND

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THERE'S THE CITY HALL BUILDING RIGHT THERE.

SO THERE'S THIS LOT RIGHT HERE.

SEE CREEK AND STUFF.

OH, THERE'S CREEKS ALL IN THERE.

BUT THAT'S JUST THAT OPEN FIELD.

THAT CANOPY WHERE THE WHOLE NO, THAT'S ALL DOWN HERE.

THAT'S ALL DOWN HERE.

IT'S, IT'S NORTH OF THAT.

YEAH, IT'S NORTH OF THAT.

NO PROBLEM.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.

I NEED A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SECOND.

IT'S FUNNY TO GO BACK TO, TO KEEP, STAY ON SEVEN FOR NOW AND THEN GO BACK TO SIX AFTER THE DISCUSSION.

YOU GOTTA DO SOMETHING WITH SEVEN.

SO IF WE WANT TO, UM, HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION MM-HMM .

UM, ASK ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT, UH, IF ANYBODY WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION, UM, I WOULD RECOMMEND WE DON'T TAKE ANY ACTION ON THE ACTUAL ZONING REQUEST UNTIL WE MAKE TAKE ACTION ON NUMBER SIX.

CORRECT.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION ON NUMBER SEVEN? NOT FOR ME, NO.

SO ONE OPTION IS WE COULD ALWAYS TABLE IT TO A FUTURE, UH, MEETING IF WE'RE NOT READY TO TAKE ACTION.

JUST PROBABLY BEST GIVE THE APPLICANT SOME DIRECTION.

UM, IF Y'ALL WANT SO MANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION OR, UH, A DIFFERENT CONCEPT PLAN OR HAVE THEM CONSIDER SOME OF THE THINGS WE'VE DISCUSSED AND THEN BRING BACK A DIFFERENT CONCEPT PLAN, UH, BASED ON THOSE COMMENTS, THEN WE COULD ALWAYS AGAIN, TABLE IT AND GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THAT BACK AND THEN WE CAN RE REVISIT IT IN JANUARY.

UH, I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UH, SOMETHING WHAT, YOU KNOW, A A NEW DRAWING WITH SHOWING THE LIVING SCREEN OR WHATEVER EXACTLY THEY'RE GONNA DO.

UH, MYSELF.

UH, I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S THE ENTRANCE INTO THE CITY AND, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET THAT LAND BACK.

SO IT'S, UH, ONE OF THOSE THINGS, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT THEY WOULD BE PROPOSING AS A, A SCREEN OF SOME SORT OR, OR WHAT? THAT'S WHAT I THINK.

I MEAN, I, I'M NOT READY TO MAKE A, A MOTION OR NOTHING ON IT AT THIS TIME.

I WOULD JUST HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE, THE DUST AND THE TRAVEL.

AND THE, AND THE ROADS AND THE, THE NOISE AND THE, I MEAN, I KNOW WE ALREADY HAVE IT THERE, BUT WE'RE BRINGING IT CLOSER IN TO WHERE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S RESIDENTS ON THAT END AS WELL AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THAT'S GONNA BE THE FIRST THING PEOPLE SEE WHEN THEY'RE COMING IN.

SO WE WOULD WANT IT TO BE SOMETHING THAT IS AESTHETICALLY PLEASING, I WOULD THINK.

AND ALONG WITH OUR MAYOR, MY CONCERN IS WE'RE MAKING IT, WE'RE EXPANDING IT.

WE'RE TAKING 20 ACRES, WHICH IS GONNA BE MORE NOISE, MORE TRUCKS, MORE PRODUCT, MORE SAND, MORE DIRT, YOU KNOW, SO MY CONCERN IS AIR QUALITY, DUST, UM, SAFETY OF OUR CITIZENS AS FAR AS THAT GOES.

THAT'S MY CONCERN.

'CAUSE WE ARE EXPANDING IT 20 MORE ACRES, WHICH IS GONNA EXPAND THE BUSINESS QUITE A BIT.

SO I, I WOULD JUST LIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THAT.

I AGREE.

I MEAN, I THINK IF WE CAN SEE A MOCKUP OF WHAT MM-HMM .

THE, UM, THE SCREENING WOULD LOOK LIKE, THAT WOULD GIVE US A BETTER IDEA.

I WOULD RECOMMEND A TABLE IT TILL NEXT MONTH.

I WOULD ALSO RECOMMEND THAT.

SO THE UM, JANUARY MEETING IS JANUARY THE 15TH.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE IT TO J UH, JANUARY 15TH.

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DO YOU WANT US TO GO AHEAD AND TABLE ITEM NUMBER SIX OR DO YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT? I WOULD GIVE THE APPLICANT THE OPPORTUNITY.

DO THEY WANT US TO CONSIDER THE, THE RE OR THE PLAT AT THIS MEETING OR DO THEY WANT US TO CONSIDER IT AT THE JANUARY MEETING ALONG WITH THE REZONE? OKAY, SO WE, WE COME BACK IN JANUARY 15TH.

WOULD, WHAT ARE THE QUESTIONS TO BE ASKED EXACTLY SO WE CAN COME BACK PROPERLY WITH WHAT YOU WANT, PLAN, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO.

CAN WE GET ALL THE THING, WHAT DO WE WANT US TO PRESENT JANUARY 15? UM, I THINK WHAT THE CONCERNS IS, IS GONNA BE, THEY WANNA KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE LOOKING LIKE ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE BARRIER, HOW HIGH THAT BARRIER WOULD POTENTIALLY BE.

UM, I I, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE WANT SOME MORE INFORMATION ON HOW YOU'RE PLANNING TO MAINTAIN THE DUST LEVELS TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT DOESN'T IMPACT OUR CITIZENS OR IF WE NEED TO LOOK AT A STRICTER REQUIREMENT FOR WHAT IS UNDERNEATH THOSE BARRIERS, UM, AND THEN MAKING SURE THAT THAT CREEK LINE THERE IS PROTECTED AS WELL.

UM, AND THEN I, AM I MISSING ANYTHING? YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC AND THE FLOW, UM, ON THE MAP THAT, THAT WE HAVE THE GREEN AND BROWN ONE.

IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE HAVING AN ACCESS POINT ON BUSINESS 45.

SO WE WERE JUST MAKING SURE THAT IF THAT'S NOT THE CASE, IF YOU DO WANT TO DO THAT, YOU WOULD HAVE TO GET T DOT APPROVAL TO, TO GET, GET THAT ACCESS POINT, BUT YEAH.

ACCESS NEAR FUTURE, WE MAY REQUEST THAT IN FOR NOW FOR EMERGENCY ACCESS TO USE BETTER.

SURE.

WE'LL PUT IT THERE JUST IN CASE.

ABSOLUTELY.

I THINK THEY JUST WANNA SEE SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE DETAILED AND TO SEE HOW YOU OVERCOME SOME OF THOSE OBSTACLES THAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH CURRENTLY SO THAT WE CAN BE BETTER EDUCATED AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MAKING THE RIGHT DECISION FOR THE ENTRANCE TO THE CITY.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? MAYBE, MAYBE EVEN LIKE THE ROADS THAT YOU'RE GONNA DRIVE ON, MAKE 'EM ASPHALT OR SOMETHING AND THEN STORE IT ONTO DIRT LESS, LESS.

THERE'S LESS DUST AND DIRT THEN, BUT YOU KNOW, SOME, YOU KNOW, JUST DO IT UP.

I DON'T KNOW.

MR. NYAK, I WILL SEND AN EMAIL TOMORROW WITH ALL THAT SO THAT YOU'RE CLEAR ON EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE WANTING.

SO DID YOU WANNA MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PLAT OR DO YOU WANT TO WAIT UNTIL JANUARY AND TABLE THAT AS WELL AND DO BOTH AT THE SAME TIME? I WOULD LIKE THIS PLAN TO BE APPROVED SO THAT WE CAN, THEY CAN, WE CAN COME BACK JANUARY WITH THE INFORMATION, BUT WE REQUEST CITY TO APPROVE THIS.

WE REQUEST IT TO APPROVE, BUT WE CAN, WE CAN TAKE ALL THE ACTIONS COME BACK IN JANUARY TO GENERAL THAT THEY COME TO MOVE THE WORK.

SO WE COULD COME BACK WITH OKAY.

IF IT'S HELPFUL, I CAN KIND OF EXPLAIN THE PLATTING PROCESS.

SURE.

UM, SO WE CURRENTLY WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS WE, YOU HAVE A, A APPLICATION TO PLOT THIS PROPERTY, THIS 20 ACRES.

AND SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS, DO YOU WANT US TO GO AHEAD AND PLOT THAT AS YOU'VE SUBMITTED AND TAKE THE ZONING UP IN JANUARY WITH THE POSSIBILITY THAT THE ZONING ISN'T APPROVED, THEN NOW YOU HAVE A PLATTED PIECE OF PROPERTY OF 20 ACRES.

AND SO IF, I'M NOT SURE HOW YOUR SALE IS STRUCTURED, IF IT'S ALREADY BEEN PURCHASED, IF IT'S CONTINGENT ON THE ZONING, UM, BUT IF WE TAKE THEM SEPARATE AND WE PLOT THIS PROPERTY, THE ZONING IS NOT APPROVED TO BE ABLE TO CHANGE THAT OR SELL IT TO A NEW BUYER, YOU WOULD HAVE TO REPL IT.

OH, THERE WE GONNA WAIT.

I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND.

WE WANTED THE ZONING APPROVED, BUT IF YOU WANT TO WAIT WITH ALL INFORMATION YOU REQUESTING SEND ME MAIL.

ABSOLUTELY.

WE TRY TO GET ALL THIS INFORMATION AND THEN WE COULD DO EVERYTHING ON THE SAME AT THE SAME TIME.

SO I'M GONNA READ NUMBER SIX AND THEN I'LL JUST NEED A MOTION TO, UH, TABLE TILL JANUARY.

ITEM NUMBER SIX, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER FOR POSSIBLE ACTION RECOMMENDING A FINAL MINOR PLAT OF REAL PROPERTY DESCRIBED AS LOT ONE BLOCK A NEW PALMER YARD SITUATED IN OUR DE LA PENA SURVEY, ABSTRACT NUMBER THREE, CITY OF PALMER, ELLIS COUNTY, TEXAS, AND CONSISTING OF APPROXIMATELY 20.332 ACRES AT SAID TIME, THE COUNCIL MAY CONSIDER FOR POSSIBLE ACTION APPROVING THE FINAL MINOR PLAT.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE TILL JANUARY 15TH.

MEETING SECOND.

NUMBER EIGHT IS DISCUSS AND CONSIDER FOR POSSIBLE

ITEM

[8. Discuss and consider for possible action approving an ordinance amending Ordinance 1220, codified as Section 4.07.001 and 4.07.005(1), regarding the definition of Earth-toned R panel fencing and materials for nonresidential uses of earth-toned R panel fencing to include trim and end caps.]

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ACTION APPROVING AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE 1220 CODIFIED AS SECTION 4.0 7.001 AND 4.0 7.0051 REGARDING THE DEFINITION OF EARTH TONED R PANEL FENCING AND MATERIALS FOR NON-RESIDENTIAL USES OF EARTH TONED R PANEL FENCING TO INCLUDE TRIM AND END CAPS.

AND THIS IS ORDINANCE NUMBER 1262.

THIS IS JUST TO ADD IN THE END CAPS AND THE TRIM ON THE R PANEL FENCING THAT IS REQUIRED FOR THE C TWO ZONING.

THEY'RE ALREADY REQUIRED TO DO OUR PANEL FENCING.

WE JUST WERE ADDING THE END CAPS AND THE TRIM FOR IT TO LOOK NICER.

IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN LAST MONTH'S, BUT THE VERBIAGE WASN'T CORRECT, SO WE HAD TO TAKE, BRING IT BACK THIS MONTH.

SORRY.

SO IF THEY'RE PUTTING UP OUR PANEL FENCING, IT WOULD JUST INCLUDE THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO PUT UP THE END CAPS ON THE SAME AND THE TRIM.

GOT IT.

IT'S GONNA BE THE TOP CAP ALSO.

IN OTHER WORDS, HOW THE FENCE IS OUT HERE THAT'S FINISHED IS HOW IT, IT TECHNICALLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN.

ORIGINALLY IT'S JUST, AND BECAUSE IT WASN'T, BUT MOVING FORWARD, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING TO AMEND THIS ORDINANCE, CORRECT? YES MA'AM.

AND THAT'S 1262 ORDINANCE NUMBER.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 1262.

SECOND.

NUMBER NINE, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER CREATING AN ORDINANCE REQUIRING CITIZENS TO AFFIX CURRENT LEGAL ADDRESS ON THE FRONT FACADE OF ALL DWELLINGS.

ITEM

[9. Discuss and consider creating an ordinance requiring citizens to affix current legal address on the front façade of all dwellings.]

SO THIS CAME UP AS A QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED AN ORDINANCE TO REQUIRE THIS.

WE DID SOME ADDITIONAL LEGAL RESEARCH BECAUSE Y'ALL ADOPTED THE INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE, THE 2015 VERSION THAT ALREADY REQUIRES THAT, UM, CITIZENS OF FIX BASICALLY YOUR ADDRESSES ON YOUR HOUSE.

UM, AND SO MOVING FORWARD, WE DON'T NEED A SEPARATE ORDINANCE, WE ALREADY CAN DO IT THROUGH THE IBC.

SO IF THERE IS SOMEBODY WHO'S IN VIOLATION, THEN WE WOULD STILL BE, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ENFORCE OUR CODES BECAUSE WE HAVE ADOPTED THE IBC.

SO JUST NO ACTION CORRECT THERE.

AND IT'S NOT MARKED FOR ACTION.

IT'S ACTUALLY JUST MARKED FOR CON UH, DISCUSSION, BUT I JUST WANNA UPDATE YOU GUYS.

THAT'S KIND OF WHY IT'S THERE.

DISCUSS AND CONSIDER FOR POSSIBLE ACTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH APGE FOR WEBSITE SERVICES.

ITEM NUMBER 10,

[10. Discuss and consider for possible action authorizing the City Administrator to negotiate and execute a contract with Apetegy for website services.]

YOU WERE GIVEN A PACKET ON THIS.

UH, HOW, EXCUSE ME, HOW MUCH IS THIS GONNA COST ? WELL, THE ENTIRE PACKAGE WILL BE $6,800.

UM, NOW THAT'S A ONE-TIME UPFRONT COST.

LET ME TAKE THAT BACK.

THE UPFRONT COST IS GONNA BE $900 AND THEN WHAT WILL BE IN A, A REOCCURRING COST, WHICH WILL BE ABOUT $5,900 A YEAR WILL BE FOR THE APP ITSELF.

AND THEN, UM, THEY ADDED AN ADDITIONAL THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR, WHAT WAS IT? UM, OH, BEING ABLE TO SECTION OFF LIKE SEND NOTIFICATIONS TO SPECIFIC AREAS OF TOWN.

SO LIKE IF THERE'S A WATER TO LIKE ZONE IT BASICALLY, SO FOR INSTANCE, REMEMBER WHEN WE, I HAD GENESIS HERE AND MM-HMM .

THEY HAD THEIR, THEIR OWN APPLICATION.

IT WAS LIKE $1,500 A YEAR AND THEY COULD SEND OUT NOTIFICATIONS TO LET'S SAY THE GREEN ACRES AREA BECAUSE OF A WATER BREAK.

UM, THIS APP DOES THE SAME THING IF YOU WANT IT TO, UM, THEIR YEARLY FEES, 4,900, THEY GIVE YOU AN ADDITIONAL A THOUSAND DOLLARS IF YOU WANT TO ADD THAT AS WELL.

UM, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA TO HAVE KIND OF A ONE-STOP SHOP.

THIS APP WILL ALLOW THE CITY SECRETARY TO UPDATE THE WEBSITE, FACEBOOK AND ANY OTHER SOCIAL MEDIAS THAT WE HAVE ALL AT THE SAME TIME AS WELL AS THE WATER BILL.

ALL OF IT.

IT'S, AGAIN, IT'S KIND OF A ONE-STOP SHOP WITH AN UNLIMITED NUMBER OF MESSAGES THAT CAN BE SENT OUT.

SO IT'S UNLIMITED.

IT'S NOT ABOUT LIMITING MESSAGES.

IT'S, IT'S A WAY FOR HER TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO UPDATE THE WEBSITE, UPDATE SOCIAL MEDIA AT THE SAME TIME.

BUT THIS IS ALL ENCOMPASSING.

I MEAN SHE CAN SEND OUT YES, YES.

25 A DAY IF SHE WANTS.

AND IT MAKES, THERE'S NOT A LIMIT.

NO.

AND IT ALSO MAKES OUR WEBSITE

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MOBILE FRIENDLY.

WHICH IS WHAT YOU WANT ANYWAY, RIGHT? NO, OUR WEBSITE CURRENTLY IS NOT MOBILE FRIENDLY.

AND YOU CAN SPECIFY LIKE IF THERE'S JUST AN ISSUE ON GREEN ACRES, SHE CAN JUST NOTIFY GREEN ACRES RESIDENTS.

CORRECT.

THERE IS A WATER LEAK THAT WILL BE OUT FROM THAT AS WELL.

THAT WAY WE'RE NOT SO HEAVILY RELYING ON FACEBOOK, BUT IT'S STILL ON FACEBOOK.

IT'S JUST THEY ALSO HAVE THIS APP TO BE ABLE TO GET.

THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE THEY SEE IT IS FACEBOOK.

RIGHT? RIGHT.

NOW THEY WILL HAVE TO SIGN UP.

THAT WAS GONNA BE MY QUESTION.

IS THEY NEED TO DO A FULL SIGNUP AND ALSO ARE WE ABLE TO PULL THE CURRENT, LET'S SAY YOU CURRENTLY GET AN ALERT FROM YOUR WATER BILL.

ARE WE ABLE TO EXTRACT THAT AND THEN DUMP THIS INTO THAT? YES.

YOU WILL BE ABLE, WHEN WE SAY WE SIGN UP, YOU'LL HAVE A QR CODE TO WHERE IT TAKES YOU AND YOU CAN SIGN UP FOR THAT.

THE APP WILL HAVE A LINK TO OUR WATER BILL PAYMENT AS WELL.

IT WON'T TAKE THE PLACE OF THAT, IT'LL JUST HAVE ACCESS TO THAT SAME WEBSITE.

HOW MUCH IS THE APP, IS IT FREE FOR THE, LIKE A CITIZEN TO GET OR THEY GOTTA PAY FOR IT? OH YES, YES, YES.

IT'S FREE.

IT'S FREE FOR THEM TO GET AND, AND WE GET SO MANY FOR THAT PRICE POINT AND IT'S WELL WITHIN WHAT WE WOULD NEED.

IT'S WAY BEYOND WHAT WE'LL HAVE FOR A WHILE.

SO WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

NOW YOU MENTIONED GENESIS.

OKAY, SO GENESIS WAS A COMPANY THAT I ASKED TO COME GIVE US A DEMONSTRATION FOR THE SIRENS AND THEY HAD A NOTIFICATION SYSTEM THAT BASICALLY WAS KIND OF THE SAME THING, BUT THAT'S ALL IT DID.

GOT IT.

YEAH, WE NEVER SIGNED UP WITH THEM.

WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THIS.

NO, BECAUSE IT, WE AT, AT ONE POINT, IF YOU REMEMBER BLACKBOARD CONNECT, WE HAD SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT AND MM-HMM .

PEOPLE HATED IT.

UM, BUT IT WAS CALLING PEOPLE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT BECAUSE YOU GET THE OPTION.

DO YOU WANT AN EMAIL, DO YOU WANT A TEXT MESSAGE? DO YOU WANT A PHONE CALL? MM.

AND A LOT OF THE ELDERLY FOLKS OPTED FOR THE PHONE CALL BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF TECHNOLOGY AND THEY WERE GETTING PHONE CALLS AT ONE, TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING.

FIRST STORM.

DO WE GET TO MAKE THE DECISION OF TIMING? I'M ASSUMING TIMING NUMBER OF CHARACTERS THAT GOES OUT, ALL THAT.

WHATEVER WE, WE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE THE WE DE YOU CONTROL, WE DEF WE DEFINE THAT.

GOT IT.

I THINK IT'S WELL WORTH THE MONEY.

AND THEN WILL THERE BE LIKE AN EDUCATION THAT WE CAN EDUCATE OUR CITIZENS ON HOW TO DO THIS? THE, THE QR CODE WILL LINK THEM TO IT AND THERE'S LIKE A, LIKE A FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTION LIKE WHEN YOU'RE GOING THE QR CODE ON YOUR WATER BILL? YES.

WELL, NO, WE CANNOT PUT, I DID CONFIRM WE CANNOT PUT UM, QR CODES ON THE WATER BILL, BUT WE CAN PUT IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

ON THE WEBSITE.

AND WHEN THEY COME UP HERE TO PAY, WE CAN HAVE IT UP HERE AT CITY HALL WHEN THEY COME UP HERE.

PERFECT.

UM, AND IT'S GONNA BE LIKE ANY OTHER APP ONCE YOU DOWNLOAD IT, IT'S JUST KIND OF FINDING YOUR WAY.

CORRECT.

AND IT'S IPHONE AND ANDROID COMPATIBLE.

GOOD.

PERFECT.

WOULD THERE BE ANY CONNECTION WITH PD AS FAR AS USING IT FOR ANY TYPE OF, I'M JUST THINKING OF LIKE A MASS ALERT TYPE OF DEAL WHERE WE WOULD SHOOT, BE ABLE TO SHOOT SOMETHING OUT, HEY, SOMETHINGS GOING ON IN DOWNTOWN OR WHATEVER.

EACH DEPARTMENT.

YEAH, EACH DEPARTMENT.

I APOLOGIZE, I THOUGHT YOU WERE DONE.

YEAH, YOU'RE FINE.

UM, THEY, EACH DEPARTMENT, LIKE WE WERE EVEN ABLE TO PUT OUR VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT ON THE APP AND SO EACH DEPARTMENT WOULD HAVE THEIR OWN SECTION.

THE POLICE DEPARTMENT COULD, IF THEY CHOSE TO HAVE THEIR OWN LOGIN MM-HMM .

AND THEY COULD UPDATE JUST THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UM, INFORMATION WHERE IT WOULD SHOOT IT OUT TO A PUSH NOTIFICATION IF YOU HAVE THAT ON YOUR PHONE.

AWESOME.

I'M JUST THINKING OF DIFFERENT USES THAT WE COULD MM-HMM .

WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE EACH PART OF THE CITY WOULD HAVE ACCESS IF, IF NEED BE.

LIKE WHETHER IT BE ADMINISTRATION, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHOEVER.

AND THEN THE INITIAL IS WHAT, 6,900? THE TOTAL $6,800 FOR THE UPFRONT COST.

THAT'S FOR THE SOFTWARE AND ALL OF, FOR THEM TO REVAMP OUR WEBSITE.

EVERYTHING.

OH WOW.

IT WOULD BE A NEW WEBSITE.

COMPLETELY NEW.

HE SAID.

UM, AGAIN, THAT, THAT'S GONNA TAKE CARE OF THE APP, THE SETUP FEE IN OUR FIRST YEAR OKAY.

WITH THEM.

AND THEN IT'S GONNA BE, UM, $5,900 A YEAR MOVING FORWARD LIKE A MAINTENANCE FEE TYPE OF DEAL.

I THINK THAT'S FOR UPDATES.

DO THEY WANT, UH, LIKE A MULTI-YEAR CONTRACT? THEY DIDN'T SAY.

UM, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GONNA REQUIRE THAT.

BUT AGAIN, I'LL, I'LL MAKE SURE SHE'LL TELL ME WHAT I CAN AND CAN'T DO OVER THERE.

MY ATTORNEY .

THE OTHER OPTION TOO IS I KNOW THIS IS WRITTEN TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE.

YOU COULD GIVE HER THE AUTHORITY TO NEGOTIATE AND THEN BRING THE CONTRACT BACK TO YOU ALL.

OKAY, SURE.

WELL, AND THE OTHER THING IS THOUGH, I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE IT DONE BY THE END OF DECEMBER.

THAT'S THE ONLY WAY THAT WE'LL GET THE, UM, THE DISCOUNT THEY'RE OFFERING HAS TO BE AGREED TO BY THE END OF DECEMBER.

SO IF YOU TRUST YOUR SAVING, I'M

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AVAILABLE FOR A MEETING.

CHRISTMAS E EVE MEETING, CHRISTMAS EVE MEETING.

DO YOU TRUST ME? IT'S, IT'S SAVING $2,000 FOR THE INITIAL SETUP.

IT IS TO EXECUTE BEFORE THE END OF DECEMBER.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE WERE INTERESTED IN BUYING BITING BECAUSE THAT SETUP IS A ONE-TIME FEE.

AND IF YOU'RE ONLY PAYING 900 FOR SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD NORMALLY PAY OVER 3000 FOR, THEN IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CONSIDER.

TO GIVE YOU SOME CONTEXT, THEY ORIGINALLY APPROACHED US SEVERAL YEARS AGO AND IT WAS $10,000.

AND I TOLD, I JUST TOLD THEM, I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU BOTHER.

WE'RE A SMALL CITY, WE CAN'T AFFORD THAT.

YOU KNOW THAT THE VOICE OF PLUMBER'S FREE , SO THAT'S TRUE.

UM, I MEAN I, I APPRECIATE THEM REACHING OUT, BUT AGAIN, THEY'VE, THEY'VE, THEY'VE REACHED OUT SEVERAL TIMES AND THEIR PRICE COME DOWN EACH TIME.

UM, AND THE APP ONLY GETS BETTER.

SO I THINK IT'S VITAL.

I MEAN I THINK IT'S, WE'VE REACHED THE CAPACITY IN THIS TOWN THAT IT'S MORE THAN WARRANTED.

ESPECIALLY IN TODAY'S AT EACH OF YEP.

THINGS HAPPEN.

EACH, WE KNOW TECHNOLOGY'S NOT FREE.

SO, SO I, I THINK IT'S, IT'S WORTH A TRY.

UM, I MEAN I, I THINK, I THINK IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO AT LEAST BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE CITY, UM, ARE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

YEP.

'CAUSE WE HAVE, WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF YOUNGER FOLKS IN AND THEY ARE ALL ABOUT THE APP, SO MM-HMM .

AS LONG AS THEY DON'T TRY TO LOCK YOU IN IN A 20 YEAR DEAL OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW? RIGHT.

I MEAN IF YOU WANT ME TO JUST GIMME SOME, LIKE SOME GUIDELINES YOU DON'T WANT ANYTHING MORE THAN A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT? I, I MEAN I'LL DO WHATEVER HE DOES.

I THINK FIVE YEARS IS MORE THAN A YEAH, THAT'S PRETTY COMMON.

IT'S USUALLY IT'S A FIVE YEAR AND THEN AUTO RENEWAL OF ONE YEAR.

SO WE COULD LOOK AT, WE COULD PUSH FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IF THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL ARE COMFORTABLE FOR WITH I, I LIKE, THAT'LL BE ALRIGHT.

I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CONSIDER FOR POSSIBLE ACTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR TO NEGOTIATE INTO THE EXECUTIVE EXEC, EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH APP, WHAT IS IT AP FOR WEBSITE SERVICES SECOND.

DISCUSS AND RECEIVE UPDATES ON CURRENT CITY PROJECTS FROM CITY ADMINISTRATOR AND STAFF.

ITEM NUMBER 11,

[11. Discuss and receive updates on current City projects from City Administrator and staff. Update on TxDot Bridge on 878 Update on Dallas Street Water line Update on Denton Street Sewer Project Discuss possibly acquiring additional land on South Dallas Street]

SO THE FIRST WE'RE GONNA UPDATE IS THE TXDOT BRIDGE ON 8 78 HEADED OUT OF TOWN TOWARDS WAXAHATCHEE.

THEY ARE GOING TO START CONSTRUCTION ON JANUARY THE FIFTH.

SO PLAN YOUR DELAYS ON HEADING TOWARD WAXAHATCHEE 'CAUSE IT WILL BE DOWN TO ONE LANE.

UM, UPDATE ON THE DALLAS STREET WATERLINE.

WAIT ON THE 8 78 BRIDGE.

I'M SORRY.

IT'S OKAY.

UM, IS IT JUST, IT'S JUST EXPANDING THE BRIDGE.

WIDENING THE BRIDGE.

WIDENING THE BRIDGE, CORRECT.

IT'S STILL GONNA BE TWO LANE.

WE'RE JUST WIDENING IT.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING THIS UPDATE ON DALLAS STREET WATERLINE IS THAT THEY ARE FINISHING UP AND NOW ARE THEY, THEY'RE AT THE COSMETIC STAGES OF CLEANING UP, CORRECT? CORRECT.

YEAH, THEY'RE GRADING THE DITCHES OUT.

UH, THEY'VE GOT A FEW LITTLE VALVES TO CONCRETE.

UM, AND THEY'RE ALREADY STARTING TO SEED EVERYWHERE THAT THEY'VE EXCAVATED, BUT AS FAR AS CONNECTIONS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, THAT'S ALL BEEN COMPLETED.

UM, I'M SCHEDULING A WALKTHROUGH WITH OUR ENGINEERING FIRM, UH, DATE UNKNOWN FOR THAT, BUT I'M ASSUMING PROBABLY AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR.

UM, UPDATE ON DENTON STREET SEWER PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN COMPLETED AS WELL.

UH, WE DID MAKE A PUNCH LIST FOR THEM AND THEY CAME BACK AND COMPLETED EVERYTHING, SO, UH, IT'S BEEN SIGNED OFF ON.

SO EVERYTHING'S DONE.

OH YES.

EXCEPT FOR THE ENVELOPE AND THE SAFE.

THAT LITTLE THE BOND.

UH, DISCUSS POSSIBLY ACQUIRING ADDITIONAL LAND ON SOUTH DALLAS STREET.

UM, THIS IS A POTENTIAL THAT WE ARE GOING TO APPROACH THE LAND DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH OF US.

UM, WE'RE GOING TO SEE IF THEY MIGHT BE WILLING TO SELL THAT IN CASE WE NEED TO EXPAND POLICE SERVICES OR CITY SERVICES IN THAT AREA.

IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN, THAT'S THE CONVERSATION WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE TO SEE HOW MUCH THAT LAND EVEN IS.

WE'RE JUST SEEING IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD BE OPEN TO CONSIDERING, BECAUSE IF THE CITY IS GROWING OR MIGHT NEED MORE SPACE, HOW MANY ACRES IS THAT? I BELIEVE IT'S FIVE.

IT'S FIVE.

AND WE, WE WERE THINKING POTENTIAL FOR A COMMUNITY CENTER, MORE SPACE FOR CITY HALL

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OFFICES IF NEEDED.

AND OFFICERS AND PARKING UP HERE AS WELL.

WHERE WE'RE AT MAX CAPACITY RIGHT NOW.

THE, AND DURING COURT DAYS WE ARE JAM PACKED.

SO YOU, YOU CAN'T, I MEAN, SOMETIMES PEOPLE ARE WAITING TO PARK, SO MM-HMM.

AND THERE'S, YOU KNOW, ANY, ANY EVENTS THAT WE HAVE AS A CITY, IT, IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL.

WE WOULD HAVE MORE PARKING AVAILABLE, YOU KNOW, FOR THE COMMUNITY AND HAVE PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO CLAIM HER.

SO JUST SOMETHING TO DISCUSS AND THINK ABOUT.

ALWAYS WORTH LOOKING AT.